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| ---------- From: anon1 To: anon2 Subject: encounter Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 00:03:24 Hello "anon2" Yes, you seem to have got the gist of this project so perfectly... Okay, this is just a practical message, we'll start the conversation properly soon. An email address anon2@furnace.org will be set up for you, will let you know when this is sorted, password etc.. Are you in the UK or will you be around April 5th, the approximate end of the project? No specific location needed, just to check that you can be ferried to lancaster relatively easily for the dinner. (Hopefully your relative can come too!) Still hoping to start the project on March 8th but there are a few things on the technical side to finalise. Hopefully this will be sorted this week, if not there will be a delay but not too long I hope. I'll mail you when everything is ready and we'll start, I don't really want to start the conversation properly until this is all done but do let me know if you have any restrictions on timing. Oh and thanks for the picture, are you person 1, 2 or 3? Any practical questions let me know, otherwise I'll be in touch soon... Yours anon1 getting to know you......getting to know all about you......getting to know you......getting to know all your friends..... ---------- From: anon1 To: postmaster Subject: encounter Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 12:46:25 Hello, No need for appologies, I didn't find you too intense... As far as the IRC chat, it will be happening through a java IRC on the furnace site rather than an actual channel, generally. I don't know how clear I made this in the call but our conversation will "open up" as it were, once a week in a public IRC chat. The dates and times of these will be on the site which will be up by the end of the week (I'll forward the URL when it's ready). These times are flexible, any problems you may have with them let me know. These will be publicised and please feel free to invite people along. Still looking at Cu-SeeMe. Do you have a camera anyway? If not let me know. For publicity I'm sending out information in the form of an official press release for galleries, institutions etc and also more informally, word of mouth, word of email, etc. I'll forward a copy of the press release to you, which I'm holding back on until the start date is really concrete. Anyone you want to forward this too please do... In your 2nd message you mentioned time restrictions but didn't say any dates (don't know if I'm missing a mail here?), except you may be more flexible after 14th March. Would this be a better start date for you? There's no problem by the way with "live" events, where timing is really specific. Every aspect of this will just work according to when you and I can meet for IRC etc, and when this is convenient, and that will be deciding factor. Okay think that's all for now, Yours, anon1 ---------- From - anon1 To: postmaster Subject: encounter Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 12:50:07 Hello, Sorry to hear you've been having problems with the java IRC on the "bubble", let me know if you still have them with IE. Your email account is being set up, I'll let you know passord etc as soon as this is done. I'll keep you posted.... anon1 ----------
---------- From: anon1 To: postmaster Subject: encounter Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 16:50:26 Please don't reply to the address on the previous message, I won't be able to receive it ----------
---------- From: anon1 To: postmaster Subject: encounter Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 19:23:24 Hello there, Appologies for the press release. The web administrator has an illness which causes them to sort of black out occasionally, remaining conscious and running on a kind of auto-pilot. They sent out the press release by mistake during one of these attacks. This was meant to be just a rough guide to the times etc and I had every intention of sending it to you to see if they would be convienient for you. Sorry if you've been left feeling a bit confused about what's going on and wondering if I still want you to be involved in this project, which by the way is a big "YES". Any changes to the details in the release are fine, the information will be on the site and a new press release will be sent out with the final arrangements. The dates I put in the release (March 16th – April 14th) are of course a week behind the original start date. I'll be able to confirm with you anabsolutely concrete start date in a couple of days, but I'd like it be sometime that week starting March 16th, is this good for you? Also the times below for IRC? March 20th 7pm March 27th 7pm April 3rd 7pm April 10th 7pm I'll be back in touch in a couple of days about the start date, email password etc. Any problems or questions let me know. best wishes anon1 ---------- From: anon1 To: postmaster Subject: encounter Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:44:28 Hello there, At last I can finally give a definite start date for your confirmation! Are these dates okay with you? start: March 20th finish: April 18th IRC: March 27th 7pm April 3rd 7pm April 10th 7pm April 17th 7pm We won't be doing a public IRC on the start date March 20th as I'd like to have a bit of private chat first. The meeting would be on saturday 18th April in lancaster. As for email accounts, there are still problems with this at the moment. As a temporary measure I will mail you at "anon2@furnace.org" and this will be automatically forwarded to your postmaster@cryptic account. If it's not too much trouble could you change your identity, within whatever mail your using, to "anon2" when sending messages to anon1@furnace.org? Let me know if these dates are okay with you and any questions you might have. I'll get the updated press release sent to you to distribute where you want. All the best, anon1 ---------- From: anon1 To: postmaster Subject: encounter Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 23:14:01 Hello there anon2, Here's the press release, please forward it to wherever you want. We will be doing CU-SeeMe but not right at the beginning. I want to see how it goes just with email for the first week, then we'll have a bit of IRC and a then bit of CU-SeeME, etc. Okay, so the project starts on Friday (20th). I'll mail you and start the project officially at last...and finally get the conversation going, it'll be so good not to techie chat and get going! Thanks very much for your patience on this. Let me know if you have any more questions otherwise I'll speak to you on Friday. By the way I'll inform you more of plans for the dinner as we go along but you will be transported, accommodated, wined and dinned. Until Friday, anon1 ---------- |
---------- From: anon2 To: anon1 Subject: Re: encounter Date: 02 March 1998 16:08 Hello again, It was a bit late when I replied... so I may have been somewhat intense. Apologies... Some questions I thought of today, purely practical! I shall respect the starting date of the project from now on. Q.1 Which IRC server shall we use? Any particular channel? Q.2 Any particular CU-SeeMe reflector you plan to use? Q.3 Publicity: presumably you would prefer to publicise the event yourself to other people on the net, however if you wish I could contact various networks (anonymously of course) via e-mail and other methods.Mainly artists, galleries, and so on. Is this a good idea? Best anon2 - "in the electric age rumors become news." - Marshall McLuhan - ----------
---------- From: postmaster To: anon1 Subject: Re: encounter Date: 03 March 1998 13:22 Hi again, As far as the IRC chat, it will be happening through a java IRC on the furnace site rather than an actual channel, generally. Like "The Bubble"? I'd better test out Internet Explorer then! It doesn't work with Netscape for the Mac... >I don't know how clear I made this in the call but our conversation will "open up" as it were, once a week in a public IRC chat. Yep, no problem - IRC is pretty much public - I guess that's the equivalent of us "going for a date" then? (As it were) >The dates and times of these will be on the site which will be up by the end of the week (I'll forward the URL when it's ready). These times are flexible, any problems you may have with them let me know. These will be publicised and please feel free to invite people along. Will do... >Still looking at Cu-SeeMe. The best software is the free version from Cornell University, it's simpler and the White Pine "enhanced" version seems to enhance system crashes... >Do you have a camera anyway? If not let me know. I do indeed. >I'll forward a copy of the press release to you, which I'm holding back on until the start date is really concrete. Anyone you want to forward this too please do... Thanks. I'll circulate it amongst my networks. >In your 2nd message you mentioned time restrictions but didn't say any dates (don't know if I'm missing a mail here?), except you may be more flexible after 14th March. Would this be a better start date for you? I'm pretty much okay with the 8th March, I will have more daytime available from 14th March for a few weeks, in case that's of benefit. Of course I don't want to give away too much about myself yet, hence I may have appeared vague... >There's no problem by the way with "live" events, where timing is really specific. Every aspect of this will just work according to when you and I can meet for IRC etc, and when this is convenient, and that will be deciding factor. Maybe we can figure out provisional time slots for the first couple of weeks. These times could then be publicised... >Okay think that's all for now, Erm... "anon2" e-mail account? How do I access? Many thanks for the swift response. Best wishes anon2 ---------- From: postmaster To: anon1 Subject: Re: encounter Date: 04 March 1998 13:01 Hi there "anon1" >Please don't reply to the address on the previous message, I won't be able to receive it Oh dear! I am in a dilemma now! You appear to have unwittingly blown your cover... Should I ignore this? But how? Unfortunately despite the best efforts of secret service agents the world over, it is not possible to selectively erase memories from the brain. so, it would seem I must attempt to explain away this slip as one more "assumed identity", thereby keeping the anonymity equation intact. Unfortunately, the effects of natural curiosity are difficult to override, so it would seem that with this new knowledge at least my experience of this project is transformed. It's as though, after a blind date in a pitch black room wearing voice filters, (yes, a bizarre imagining I know, but the nearest analogy I can find: maybe personal ads are closer) you had left your business card behind by mistake. It would seem I am getting to know you rather quicker than anticipated, and certainly more than you know about me... Anyhow, having aired my thoughts I shall do my best to ignore this information and continue with our arrangement. Regarding the chat room at www.furnace.org, I'm a bit mystified as to why it should not work with Netscape 4.0 on my Mac, but it seems to work with IE 3.01. Maybe my copy of Netscape is damaged... Anyhow, speak to you soon. Regards anon2 ---------- From: postmaster To: anon1 Subject: Re: encounter Date: 06 March 1998 09:14 Hello there. Haven't heard from you in a while. Is everything okay? Hope I didn't ruin your day with that last e-mail. I hope the project can still go ahead. Please let me know if any problems. Regards anon2 ---------- From: postmaster To: anon1 Subject: Re: press release - encounter Date: 07 March 1998 09:51 Oh dear. Now I've given the game away by leaving my sig. file on the previous e-mail. Shit, I guess this means the game's over? Damn! regards anon2 ---------- From: postmaster To: anon1 Subject: Re: press release - encounter Date: 06 March 1998 11:48 Hi there I'm a bit confused: am I still involved in this project or not? I just received this press release via the live art mailing list. I can make these times, but it would have been nice if you could have let me know before sending out the PR. Please could you get back to me and let me know what's happening? I stress that I would still like to be involved: if this is still the case, or if you have other ideas, please get in touch. Regards anon2 ---------- From: postmaster To: anon1 Subject: Re: encounter Date: 08 March 1998 08:44 Hello again, >Appologies for the
press release. The web administrator has an illness It happens. I just panicked, I guess... >Sorry if you've been left feeling a bit confused about what's going on and wondering if I still want you to be involved in this project, which by the way is a big "YES". Thanks. I'm glad... >but I'd like it be sometime that week starting March 16th, is this good for you? Also the times below for IRC? >March 20th 7pm >March 27th 7pm >April 3rd 7pm >April 10th 7pm These are fine. I assume the dinner will be the following Saturday, 18th April? Please let me know. Thanks again. Best anon2 ----------
---------- From: postmaster To: anon1 Subject: Re: encounter Date: Mon 16/03/98 11:07 Hi again, >Are these dates okay with you? >start: March 20th >finish: April 18th >IRC: >March 27th 7pm >April 3rd 7pm >April 10th 7pm >April 17th 7pm >We won't be doing a public IRC on the start date March 20th as I'd like to have a bit of private chat first. The meeting would be on saturday 18th April in lancaster. This all seems fine. Will we be doing any CU-SeeMe? >If it's not too much trouble could you change your identity, within whatever mail your using, to "anon2" when sending messages to anon1@furnace.org? I will give it a go... Speak to you soon: I'll get back with some extra questions about the middle of the week. anon2 ----------
---------- From: postmaster To: anon1 Subject: Re: encounter Date: Wed 18/03/98 00:13 Hello again, >We will be doing CU-SeeMe but not right at the beginning. I want to see how it goes just with email for the first week, then we'll have a bit of IRC and a then bit of CU-SeeME, etc. Okay then... >Okay, so the project starts on Friday (20th). I'll mail you and start the project officially at last...and finally get the conversation going, Fine. >Thanks very much for your patience on this. No problem. >you will be transported, accommodated, wined and dinned. Sounds good! Best wishes till then anon2 ---------- |
