Paint From Nature, a net art performance by Caterina Davinio, dedicated to the Twin Towers disaster

"PAINT FROM NATURE"
A NET-ART PERFORMANCE

DEDICATED TO THE TWIN TOWERS DISASTER

BY CATERINA DAVINIO

GIUBBE ROSSE - FLORENCE - ITALY
FEBRUARY 4TH 2002 6:00 PM

See the action at the Giubbe Rosse

The net-performance "Paint From Nature", by Caterina Davinio, took
place February 4th 2002 at the Giubbe Rosse, historical literary café of the
avant-garde, in Florence, Italy, in co-operation with
Massimo Mori, Elisabeth H. Todal, Tiziano Pecchioli, Fiorenzo Smalzi, during
the opening of the visual poetry exhibition "Tribute to Marinetti".

"Paint From Nature" - the nature as media landscape and telematic passage, communication movement, is inspired to the disaster o the New York towers, event which has had a great impact on the collective imaginary in the planet also for the mass-media dimension, which accompanied it.

September 11 and 12 arrived at Karenina.it e-mail address (clprezi@tin.it) fast three hundred messages, from all over the world, from mailing lists (mainly from Rhizome), from artists, cultural associations, citizens, navigators, who spook about what had happened; from the e-mails arrived at first, fill of dismay for the sudden interruption of communication with artistic situations and persons who were in New York in those hours, to the messages which tried to find information, to bring help, to intervention which tried a political interpretation of what was happening.

In the copy "from nature" there is the text of 70 e-mails arrived in Karenina.it e-mail box September 11 and 12. The action is going to be documented in a book.

The unanimous, choral sound of the voices in the copy from "nature", from the telematic truth, which consummates its existence in the continuous passage from real to virtual and back, comes from an every-place, or a no-place, from that texture of contacts, which is also a "thing", space where enter, wander, look for, reality, which in the performance "Paint from nature" was copied down, or, with a metaphor, photographed, after it was framed in the monitor, together with some questions about what a net-performance "really" is, what a "copy from nature" and the "nature" self, for an artist, is in the net, in the media universe, how Internet brings in discussion the role of the artist, his identity and these concepts (identity, reality, copy, nature, original, presence, performance role space-time) result disintegrated but also reconstructed.

The work "Paint From Nature", made of interaction, action, e-mail art, creation of an object, copy realized with technologic instruments which are in hands of an artist today (digital, identical with the represented original, but that finally concretises itself in an unique not-reproducible experience at the Giubbe Rosse space, this work, made of communic/action, and generating itself while the communication runs, do not falls under the categories that the art and the art critic put at disposal.

I work since 1995 around the theme of the identity, of the absence of the performer, his hiding, playing and equivocating with the identity, the thing is poetic in itself. As poetic is the fact that a poet can communicate further on his presence, gives some "machines", machinery of poetry which everyone let functionate, adapt to his space.time.

The same concept was explored by me in a mail.net.performance in June 2001 "Prisoner of Reality" (the virtual one? the real one? which difference?), but also many years ago, when, in Rome, at Lavatoio Contumaciale Cultural Center, I left empty the stage, abandoned it to my recorded voice, remaining hidden (certainly some maniacally) in the public, watching the curiosity growing and materializing around my absence.

A poetry-machine can be now constructed using new technologies on which words, images and things agglomerate, but a poetry-machine are the words games by Marcel Duchamp, and is the Iliad.

We, virtual poets, is known, dislocate ourselves, body and mind, in the net, but, is known, a poet since always dislocates himself in the time.

Sincerely and futuristically yours from No-Place-Where

Caterina Davinio

Giubbe Rosse, 4 febbraio 2002 (maybe)
Opening of the visual poetry exhibition "Tribute to Marinetti"

KARENINA.IT (poetry in "fàtica" function) A web project by Caterina Davinio
davinio@tin.it on line since 1998 - By Jakobson, 'fàtico' is the use of
the language which has the finality to maintain open and operative the
communication channel among the interlocutors. On the confine between art
and critic, happening and net performance, Karenina.it is a virtual meeting
place around the theme of the writing and the new technologies, in which
experiences of international artists, curators, theoreticians converge, in a
net that counts thousands of contacts in the world.

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Lights/7323/kareninarivista.html

----- Original Message -----

From: "Caterina Davinio" <davinio@tin.it>

Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:06 PM

Subject: copia dal vero - presentazione

> Cari amici riuniti alle Giubbe,
> La performance di questa sera, realizzata in collaborazione con Massimo
> Mori, Elisabeth H. Todal, Tiziano Pecchioli e Fiorenzo Smalzi, s'intitola
> "Copia dal vero" - il vero inteso come paesaggio mediatico e passaggio
> telematico - ed è ispirata al disastro delle
> torri di New York, evento che ha colpito profondamente l'immaginario
> collettivo a livello planetario, anche per la dimensione massmediatica e
> comunicativa che lo ha accompagnato.
>
> Tra l'11 e il 14 settembre 2001 sono giunti nella mia casella di posta
> elettronica circa trecento messaggi,
> provenienti da mailing list, da singoli artisti, da associazioni, gallerie,
> semplici cittadini, che commentavano l'accaduto; dalle prime e-mail, dense
> di sgomento, soprattutto
> per l'interruzione improvvisa della comunicazione con situazioni artistiche
> e persone che sapevamo a
> New York in quelle ore, a messaggi che cercavano
> disperatamente di reperire notizie, di dare indicazioni su come fornire
> aiuto, a interventi
> che hanno tentato una lettura in termini politici di
> quanto stava succedendo.
>
> Nella "copia dal vero" vi è il testo di settanta e-mail
> arrivate l'11 e il 12 settembre. Una più ampia selezione sarà sul sito
> Karenina.it (poesia in funzione fàtica) in relazione alla performance di
> oggi, di cui la pagina web costituirà il prolungamento.
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Light/7323/kareninarivista.html
>
> La coralità delle voci presenti nella "copia" dal vero telematico, che
> consuma la propria esistenza nel contuinuo passaggio dal reale al virtuale e
> viceversa, proviene da
> "ognidove" o forse da "nessundove", da quel tessuto di contatti, che è
> anche "cosa", luogo in cui addentrarsi, vagare, cercare,
> realtà che mi sono limitata a trascrivere, o, con una metafora, a
> fotografare, dopo averla inquadrata nel
> mirino del monitor, insieme a spunti di riflessione su cosa una
> net-performance
> "concretamente" sia, su cosa una "copia dal vero" e il vero
> stesso nella rete, nell'universo mediatico, siano, su come Internet ponga in
> discussione il ruolo dell'artista, la sua identità, e questi concetti
> (identità, realtà, copia, vero, originale, presenza, performance, ruolo,
> spazio-tempo) risultino
> disintegrati, ma anche ricostruiti.
>
> Il lavoro di oggi, a metà tra l'interazione, l'azione, la e-mail art,
> la creazione comunque di un oggetto, la "copia", realizzata con gli
> strumenti
> elettronici di cui oggi un artista dispone (digitalmente identica alla
> realtà che rappresenta, ma che si concretizza infine in un'esperienza unica
> e non riproducibile alle Giubbe),
> quest'opera, che si è fatta e si fa mentre la comunicazione si fa, non
> rientra in nessuna delle categorie che l'arte e la critica ci hanno messo
> finora a disposizione.
> Mi è sempre piaciuto ruotare intorno al tema
> dell'assenza del performer, al suo nascondersi, giocare ed equivocare
> sull'identità, trovo la cosa profondamente
> poetica in sé. Come lo è il fatto che un poeta comunichi al
> di là della propria presenza, fornisca degli "ingranaggi", delle "macchine"
> di poesia, che ognuno fa funzionare, adatta a sé, al proprio spazio-tempo.
> Ho esplorato recentemente lo stesso tema nella net-perfomance svoltasi a
> Padova nel giugno 2001 ("Prigioniera della realtà"), ma anche anni prima,
> quando, con tecnologie rudimentali, al Lavatoio Contumaciale, centro
> culturale
> diretto da Tomaso Binga, in una performance ho preferito lasciare vuoto il
> palcoscenico, abbandonarlo alla mia voce registrata, per rimanere
> mimetizzata
> tra il pubblico, ad assistere, certo un po' maniacalmente, alla mia assenza,
> alla
> curiosità che intorno ad essa andava materializzandosi.
> Gli "ingranaggi" poetici possono oggi essere costruiti usando tecnologie
> sofisticate intorno alle
> quali si raggrumano parole, immagini e cose, ma un ingranaggio che ognuno
> adatta a sé e al suo tempo sono i giochi di parole di Duchamp ed è anche
> l'Iliade.
> Spero di essere riuscita a dirvi ciò che ho-avevo-avrò in mente,
> quando
> ho pensato questa performance, ma noi poeti virtuali, si sa, ormai
> disseminati con il corpo e la mente nella rete, ci dislochiamo da sempre
> anche nel tempo.
>
> Cordiali e futuristici saluti da Nessundove
> Caterina Davinio
>
> Giubbe Rosse, 4 febbraio 2002
> Inaugurazione della mostra "Omaggio a Marinetti"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:22 PM

> [EdS news]
> ===========================================================0
> 11 settembre 2001: tra le 15:00 e le 16:30 il territorio degli Stati Uniti
d'America
> subisce un pesante attacco aereo di natura terroristico-militare.
>
> Vengono colpiti i simboli planetari economico e militare:
> il Pentagono e le torri gemelle del World Trade
> Center di New York che crollando [16.00 - 16:28] segnando la fine di una
crisi
> e la nascita di nuova possibilità.
> Riassunto: colpito un obiettivo "civile" e uno militare in un territorio
off-limit
> [siamo in presenza di un'operazione da letteratura militare di ogni tempo:
è
> possibile che siano "4 straccioni disperati"?]
>
>
> 11 settembre 2001:
> -----------------------------------------
> 1) fine della politica economica e militare "stanziale": il pre-umano
> 2) nasce la civiltà "nomadica" del digitale di rete: niente più centri
operativi
> e simbolici [teste operative] sul territorio da colpire militarmente oggi
palesatesi
> non difendibili neanche in territorio nord-americano teoricamente
off_limit ad
> attacchi di questo tipo
> 3) chi vorrà caricarsi sul proprio territorio centri operativi e simbolici
di
> tale portata in grado di annientare decenni di politica economica e
militare
> [quindi cultura] senza militarizzare città e nazioni "civili e
democratiche"?
> 4) la civiltà tecnologica di rete si scopre impreparata [connessioni
impossibili]
> 5) la rete [per i normali] è in semioscurità. Morale: la rete? Per ora
solo moda,
> meno pubblicità e più fatti.
>
>
>
> Conseguenze:
> ---------------------------------
> 1) domanda: è sempre necessario il morto/i "ricchi" per capire qualcosa
> [oltre i curriculum]?
> 2) cercare assolutamente di fare un normale piantino albeggiante e
salvifico:
> - aria inquinata per la neonata civiltà nomadica del digitale di rete?
[speriamo
> di non farci il fondoschiena livido a forza di schiaffi]
> - bit inquinati per la nascita di una civiltà di rete che dichiari su
"quelle
> robuste" spalle della razionalità stanziale una nuova epoca che ci porti
realmente
> ad una vita umana in quanto tale cioè una democrazia che si fondi su una
giustizia
> diacronica anche post-datata. [morale: niente posizioni dominati
pre-acquisite]
>
>
> Morale:
> ----------------------------------
> 1) ci sarà autocritica privata o pubblica oltre la normale giustizia
sincronica?
> 2) o
> 3) pugno di ferro [della serie lo abbiamo più duro noi] e militarizzare la
zona
> culturalmente civile del pianeta on armi metalliche, digitali e
diplomatiche?
>
>
> Solidarizziamo con le vittime innocenti di New York e statunitensi, ma
anche
> le altre vittime innocenti della
> civiltà "culturale" pre-umana senza nome e senza storia compreso:
> - i sessanta milioni di amerindi della rivoluzione culturale americana
storicamente
> di derivazione europea
> - imprecisati milioni di africani resi schiavi e morti durante trasporto e
lavoro
> - più
> - il resto senza resto
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Una buona formatazione dona loro o Signore
> Splenda su di essi la luce del monitor
> E riscrivili in pace
> click
>
> Titolo: fossa comune
> Salon de juillet 1999
> galleria d'arte La Bacheca - Cagliari
> --------------------------------
>
> ultima ora:
> Secondo il segretario
> della Nato Wesley Clark l'allarme non si puo' ancora
> considerare cessato.
> Intanto arriva la conferma che anche l'aereo della United Airlines
> precipitato a Pittsburgh e' stato dirottato: novanta
> le vittime.
> Anche l'American Aerlines ha confermato ufficialmente la perdita di
> due aerei: il volo Boston-Los Angeles e il volo Dulles-Los
> Angeles. Sui due aerei che si sono schiantati sulle Torri
> si trovavano 156 persone.
> Un aereo militare Usa F-16 sta tenendo sotto controllo il
> quinto aereo dirottato (che sembra diretto verso San Francisco)
> pronto a intercettarlo e a neutralizzarlo.
> Evacuata a Washington tutta la zona del Campidoglio.
> Non si conosce la destinazione dell'aereo presidenziale
> che e' ancora in volo.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:41 PM

>
>
>
> Is everyone okay?
> + WEEN-gin & juice=brilliant

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:19 PM

> Really.
>
> Those in NYC who have been quiet today, please give us a shout.
>
> Thanks
>
> Biti
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:15 PM

> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~ljw1004/tarot/cards/16tower.jpg
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:56 PM

> when i heard about the world trade center i also thought about the lower
> manhattan cultural council studio world views program studios, don't know
if
> anyone involved with that is on this list...i hope everyone is safe and
ok,
> and i can't get over the craziness of what happened this morning.
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:46 PM

>
> I'm sorry, but this is in very poor taste.
>
> http://www.windowsontheworld.com
>
> They are still allowing reservations...
> + WEEN-gin & juice=brilliant

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:33 AM

> rhizomers,
>
> i am not in new york right now. (we are all watching/reading the news here
> in Croatia from the Art Servers conference.) so i am okay.
>
> i haven't been able to get in touch with mark, lauren or mary who are the
> other three people who work in the rhizome office. the office is in the
> Soho area which is in lower manhattan, but is approx 40 blocks north of
the
> Twin Tower area. the office is probably evacuated at this moment. i can
> only assume that neither mark, mary or lauren were in the office at 9am,
> since normal work hours for us begin at about 10am.
>
> the rhizome server went down at around the time of the first crash
> (possibly from a power surge or something), but i brought it back up about
> an hour ago. this means that all rhizome listserv and office email was
down
> for a few hours this morning. Rhizome Raw should now be functioning
normally.
>
> that's the update i can offer now.
>
> take care,
>
> alex

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:39 PM

>
> like most of people getting the news hour after hour,we are under shock.
>
> our thoughts are turned in your direction.
>
> pavu.com

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:09 PM

> >
> > Those in NYC who have been quiet today,
> please give us a shout.
> >
>
>
> i arrived at my office building, one penn plaza at
> 34 and 8th ave. people pouring out. asked. 2
> planes crashed into the wtc. went to office on 24th
> flr. through windows saw the towers burning. one
> of my co-workers was video-taping it and had
> gotten the second crash.
> http://www.mteww.com/plane_01.mov .
>
> while i was capturing and compressing the vid,
> the 1st tower collapsed. saw the whole thing.
> indescribable horror.posted vid i mentioned
> above on mteww.com and got the fuck out of the
> office tower i was in.
>
>
> all subways closed. need to walk to my
> girlfriend's place on 3rd and ave b. she works at
> world financial center, across the street from wtc.
> she was at home and is ok.
>
> walking down witnessed the 2nd tower go down
> from 23rd and 6th ave. people sobbing in the
> streets, some close to hysteria. i'm close myself.
>
> long lines at ATMs and groceries. people are
> walking uptown due to no trains. see one guy
> covered with dust. he must have been close but
> he looks ok.
>
> you hear a jet in the sky and everyone looks up.
> that never happened before.
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:12 PM

> We're alive, but it's wierd. Lots of off-hand xenophobia; some calls for a
> lock down. It's bad. My only hope is the shortness of public memories.
>
> Keith
>
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Beatrice Beaubien wrote:
>
> > Really.
> >
> > Those in NYC who have been quiet today, please give us a shout.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Biti
> >
> >

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:16 PM

>
> can someone forward this to thingist and
> anywhere else.
>
> >
> > i arrived at my office building, one penn plaza at
> > 34 and 8th ave. people pouring out. asked. 2
> > planes crashed into the wtc. went to office on
> 24th
> > flr. through windows saw the towers burning.
> one
> > of my co-workers was video-taping it and had
> > gotten the second crash.
> > http://www.mteww.com/plane_01.mov .
> >
> > while i was capturing and compressing the vid,
> > the 1st tower collapsed. saw the whole thing.
> > indescribable horror.posted vid i mentioned
> > above on mteww.com and got the fuck out of the
> > office tower i was in.
> >
> >
> > all subways closed. need to walk to my
> > girlfriend's place on 3rd and ave b. she works at
> > world financial center, across the street from
> wtc.
> > she was at home and is ok.
> >
> > walking down witnessed the 2nd tower go down
> > from 23rd and 6th ave. people sobbing in the
> > streets, some close to hysteria. i'm close
> myself.
> >
> > long lines at ATMs and groceries. people are
> > walking uptown due to no trains. see one guy
> > covered with dust. he must have been close but
> > he looks ok.
> >
> > you hear a jet in the sky and everyone looks up.
> > that never happened before.
> >

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:45 PM

mis condolencias y mi apoyo incondicional para el pueblo norteamericano.
jorge demarco de escultores por la paz
vinchuca

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:50 PM

> Hey, Spacepainter Ok!
> Wow did I have a sight to see as I walked up the
> subway steps this morning at 9. Best to other New
> Yorkers. It's complete chaos here, about to go take a
> walk now to soak up the seen some more.
> Thx,
> Chris Ramey

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:54 PM

>
>
> Well, did you really think things would be okay?
>
> Ironic is that yesterday I am driving down the street to work,
> listening to NPR talking about America as an empire, and how,
> Militarily, we are the most powerful country on Earth. There
> was discussion about the anti american sentiment being found
> in other countries, about how we're misunderstood as dumb junk
> food obsessed money hungry idiots.
>
> But they are right, to the extent that America is a very
> innocent country, I mean not as a government but as a collection
> of people. We don't really care about middle eastern politics,
> or african politics, or european politics. And maybe we should,
> maybe that's the point, maybe we would stop Rwandan Genocide
> and maybe we would realize that Zionism is racism or something.
> Right or wrong, we were an innocent country through naiveté and
> ignorance.
>
> And I looked out at this traffic light and how the road went on
> the horizon and how it stretched across this entire country to
> another ocean. How there were miles of blue skies and street
> lights and American cars, that look nothing like European cars,
> and how we have a culture that's invisible because we're so used
> to it. I kind of understood the concept of "America," as a space,
> not as a politically segmented piece of property on a map, and
> not as a state of mind, and not as the idea of "freedom
> and democracy", but as a giant, sprawling flatness with a giant,
> sprawling blue sky. I thought of america as roads, not as super
> markets.
>
> If you think of america as roads its suddenly a lot more
> beautiful, I think, a lot more green and a lot more blue, and
> even the stoplights are prettier. America, not the USA, but
> the land, and the possibility to cross it. Take away the
> culture, take away the currency and the religion and the
> politics and the borders and just look at America. Stop at a
> street corner or at a red light when it turns green and just
> know that you are connected to it all, literally on the same
> pavement as red lights turning green everywhere else, we share
> the same roads, we share this giant awe inspiring highway and
> we are all going to go when the light turns.
>
> But now come the consequences. When kids attacked Columbine, we
> had a lock down on school campuses across the country that made
> a terrible thing even worse. We put locks on the doors and
> mandated bathroom trips and made it so that former students
> needed prior approval to visit old teachers. Never mind the
> social decay or the cultureless voids that drive people crazy,
> the wastelands that are teenagers choices for cultural
> enrichment, spiritual enrichment [in the sense that they learn
> to appreciate life, through god or not, that's not my call.]
> Nevermind the football kids who pummel the kids in Marilyn
> Manson tee shirts daily, lets just take off the Marilyn Manson
> tee shirts.
>
> Well, be prepared, because that is what will happen to America
> now. The government will do what the school boards have done.
> They will make borders tighter and they will put metal detectors
> in the John Hancock building, and they will target the middle
> easterners and "camel jockeys," as I've been seeing them called,
> and we will not look at the fact that who is responsible is
> simply a single madman, not Islam at large. Look at Rumi, look
> at Hafiz, and tell me if they are blowing up the pentagon? And
> look at what acts of terrorism have been conducted under the
> Christian name, and you don't see us indicting the Vatican. Or
> bombing it.
>
> But we will make it so that the expanse stops. What will happen
> now is that, as we stand at the red light turning green, we are
> not all the same. There will be restrictions, and there will be
> threats and there will be laws and there will be questions we
> are not used to.
>
> But the tragedy is that it is a necessity. We are awake now.
> We have been humbled and we cannot stay naive any longer. Even
> our Activism will be different, because it will not be so easy.
> There will be shifts from anti-corporate to anti-islamic. The
> issues are muddled now. We have to be careful not to pretend
> that the African village handing out candy and dancing at the
> streets for our massacre is "the middle east." We need to know
> who are the zealots and who are not. We need to think instead
> of feel, for a while.
>
> So here it is, a lamentation for the death of Green Lights
> across America, and a slow fade into yellow.
>
>
> -e.
> + NYC, nous sommes désolées =(

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:59 PM
>
>
> the second impact came after I had run back upstairs, woken Diana, my
> housemate, and turned on the tv. people on the street hadn't thought of a
> terrorist attack, bizarre as that may seem. Now they would have to believe
> it. Strange mix of real-time and slightly delayed tv coverage, plus
> endlessly looping coverage, with my "real" view from the street...
>
> hours later, stranded on the upper east side, having stupidly attempted to
> get to work, it seemed as though the entire city had taken to the streets,
> everyone moving in every direction, orderly, sunny, a strange range of
> facial expressions. ofcourse, the museums were all evacuated...
>
> Paranoia while near any landmark. zig zagging home (avoiding UN, Empire
> State, Port Authority, various important and infinitely targetable tall
> buildings....) took hours on foot, but quite amazing to cross the city,
> stranded and trying to keep wired and in touch. All I could think of was
> how it was never a Q of "if" but of "when"...
>
> J
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:58 PM

>
> Hi All;
>
> just got home after long day stranded. must tell you this first: at 8:47am
> I was waiting for the elevator to go to work when I heard a jet buzz our
> street---Laguardia Place runs north-south, at the foot of which used to
> stand in full view, the world trade center.
>
> anyway, I tried to see out the window when I heard the impact, a
> collective "Oh!" from the street, and then people all looking south.
>
> the elevator came, I went down, and at first saw nothing, expecting to see
> a small plane crashed into a row of apartment buildings. then I looked up.
>
> it is all still very unreal. at that moment, the cartoon-like
> airplane-shaped hole, billowing smoke and flames, did not seem real...
>
>
> I have taken some pictures, both from the tv and from the street...will
> upload for general use.
>
> xo
> j
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:14 PM

> In a message dated 9/11/2001 1:15:59 PM Central Daylight Time,
> mrzero@panix.com writes:
>
> > My only hope is the shortness of public memories.
>
> At my office, where they trade stocks, they said "time to occupy," and you
> know that's what will happen.
>
> Max
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:44 PM

>
>
> Mashica sends our thoughts to the states, what once was home for half of
us.
> There is a sickness about, and in our thoughts we send you all hope.
>
> Mashica
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:10 PM
...

> http://www.karhalev.net/what/
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will go to the chat and have a
talk
> for an hour or so, what I have never done. Hi! - Hi! - How are you? -
> Fine... - :-) - :-)))))
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will hire a taxi and drive at
crazy
> speed along the night city and obligatory ask the taxi driver to keep
silent
> during this time.
>
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will take a very expensive
> prostitute for myself with all the money I have.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will get drunk, as it is usually
> done in such cases.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, the network slaughter in Quake will
> be the best occupation before it, hundreds of deaths and all of them will
be
> virtual.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will make an Internet
translation
> of my dying.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will obligatory phone Her and
admit
> everything.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will place my telephone number in
> the newspaper advertisement , so that everyone can phone me and enquire
> about my health.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will send the news about my death
> to all news agencies of the world.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will go to work in the morning as
> if nothing has happened and die at my work place as a victim of
capitalism.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will put up my soul for
electronic
> auction in the Internet, let it serve to somebody else.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will leave behind my death and
rush
> from the high bridge into the river.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will write the letter to my
parents
> and when they receive it, I will not be alive any more.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will buy something I have dreamed
> about but never thought to buy.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will destroy everything I have
> done, as a real artist.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will eat properly at last.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will send the E-mail letters
full
> of balderdash to all my friends and they will answer to an already dead
> man.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will sink my computer in the sea,
> and it will not pass to anybody.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will have a date with somebody
and
> will not come.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will write out on a peace of
paper
> all things, which I had no time to do, frame it and hang up on a wall.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will watch three of my most
favorite
> films: "Nostalgia" ,"Apocalipsis Now", "Dolche Vita"
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will make everything so it will
not
> be a shame to die.
>
> If I learn, that I will die tomorrow, I will obligatory sleep properly.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:46 PM

> I didn't know what had happened but I woke up to a slew of messages
> "Are you alright?" Pieced a few of these together but I doubt I
> will get the story until tomorrow in the paper. (I don't have a TV)
>
>
> It is hardly unusual for Veselka to have a line of people waiting to
> be seated for lunch. But today they are the only restaurant open for
> blocks around. It's not that crowded but not at all empty. About
> normal.
>
> But there have been peculiarly long lines to their bathrooms for the
> last hour. This is the real sign of panic in NY.
>
>
> It is eerie to see no cars on 2nd Avenue and plain odd to see 1st
> Avenue SO congested. There, the National Guard is directing traffic.
> The sidewalks are packed. Everyone migrating on foot in both
> directions. Everyone is laughing though. It would be hard to be
> grim about not having to go to work on such a nice day.
>
>
> I'm gonna go watch twhid's video now.
>
>
> thanks Biti,
> Judson

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:52 PM

>
>
> best i can do, not knowing what the fuck to do:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/newsgrist/Siege.html
>
>
> xo
> j
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:48 PM

> Terrence writes;
>
>
> Deepest condolences to all in New York their families relatives and
> friends and all American citizens.
>
>
>     The International Airport here in Vancouver is receiving flights. I
> have watched plane after plane landing. A mountain of luggage is piling
> up. All hotels are booked. 532 airports are shut down. Everywhere
> everybody is physically frozen. The traffic and street activity is
> noticeably empty. A fighter jet circled overhead as I entered my studio
> to write this to you.
>
>   I phoned a friend this morning at 10:15 to commiserate. I realized his
> happy care free voice had not heard the news of this horrible tragedy.
> It took me at least 20 seconds before I could actually blurt out what
> happened as he kept asking repeatedly what happened as I kept gasping on
> the phone. I new at that moment the cry of humanity was stuck in my
> throat   I realized then that everything has changed.
>
> Peace and love.
>
> T.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:14 PM

> fitter, happier * more productive * comfortable * not drinking too
> much * regular exercise at the gym (3 days a week) * getting on
> better with your associate employee contemporaries * at ease * eating
> well (no more microwave dinners and saturated fats) * a patient
> better driver * a safer car (baby smiling in back seat) * sleeping
> well (no bad dreams) * no paranoia * careful to all animals (never
> washing spiders down the plughole) * keep in contact with old friends
> (enjoy a drink now and then) * will frequently check credit at (moral)
> bank (hole in wall) * favours for favours * fond but not in love *
> charity standing orders * on sundays ring road supermarket * (no
> killing moths or putting boiling water on the ants) * car wash (also
> on sundays) * no longer afraid of the dark * or midday shadows *
> nothing so ridiculously teenage and desperate * nothing so childish *
> at a better pace * slower and more calculated * no chance of escape *
> now self-employed * concerned (but powerless) * an empowered and
> informed member of society (pragmatism not idealism) * will not cry
> in public * less chance of illness * tires that grip in the wet (shot
> of baby strapped in back seat) * a good memory * still cries at a
> good film * still kisses with saliva * no longer empty and frantic *
> like a cat * tied to a stick * that's driven into frozen winter shit
> (the ability to laugh at weakness) * calm, fitter, healthier, and
> more productive * a pig * in a cage * on antibiotics
>
>
> - radiohead
>
>
> + NYC, nous sommes désolées =(

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:45 AM

> Invitation______________________Français (English below)
>
> EXPERIENCE POIETIQUE
> Experience d'interaction collective en temps reel sur l'internet
> (rien à voir avec ce qu'il s'est passe à New York, enfin si peut-etre,
> qui sait?)
> > http://www.enst.fr/~auber/
>
> Mercredi 12 septembre
> 15h30 - 16h30, heure de Paris (GMT+2)
> Jeudi 13 Septembre
> 15h30 - 16h30, heure de Paris (GMT+2)
>----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:20 PM
>
> this just in :
>
>
>         [RRE]attack
>    Date:
>         Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:58:22 -0700
>    From:
>         Phil Agre <pagre@alpha.oac.ucla.edu>
>      To:
>         "Red Rock Eater News Service" <rre@lists.gseis.ucla.edu>
>
>
> Here are some more URL's relating to the attacks this morning.
>
>   a backup site that generally works when cnn.com does not
>   http://robots.cnn.com/
>
>   video of the second plane in New York
>   high bandwidth:
>      http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/091101plane1-large.html
>   low bandwidth:
>      http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/091101plane1-small.html
>
>   people's stories
>   http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAVZWE2IRC.html
>
>   Hotline from the National Journal can be accessed today for free
>   http://hotlinescoop.com/web/content/hotline.htm
>   http://nationaljournal.com/pubs/hotline/extra/lastcall/
>
>   this site will register people who are safe
>   http://do.millennium.berkeley.edu/
>
>   you can query this site to search for people
>   http://do.millennium.berkeley.edu/find.php
>
>   military analysis
>   http://www.janes.com/
>
>   photos from Brooklyn of the buildings collapsing
>   http://www.indigo23.com/
>
>   an architect discussing how the buildings collapsed
>
> http://home.actlab.utexas.edu/pipermail/discuss/2001-September/000226.html
>
>   Engineers Shocked By Towers Collapse
>   http://chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-010911kamin-towers.story
>
> I've also been asked to encourage everyone to give blood. The Red
> Cross Web site and 800 number are down, but you can try local numbers.
>
> I am not sending out much material because I'm unhappy at the amount
> of speculation in the media, even though much of it is labeled as
> such, and I don't want to add to it. I'm also unhappy with the loose
> uses of the word "war" that I'm hearing in the media, especially when
> used to urge suspension of civil liberties. We'll have to talk about
> the civil liberties consequences as we go along. But the important
> thing now is to be rational.
>
> I'd prepared a package of URL's on other topics that I was going to
> send out this morning, but it doesn't seem decent. So I've put them
> up on the Web pages that are accessible through the RRE home page for
> anyone who wants to look at them.
>
>   http://dlis.gseis.ucla.edu/people/pagre/rre.html
>
> Do send me anything else you find that's useful.
>
> Phil----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:48 PM

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>
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>
> This account has surpassed its bandwidth allocation at the present time.
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>
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:22 AM>
>
> liquid mo.][vomit N][bile news face glow::target][s][-seeking floating
> chrome fl][ame][owers::asbestos breathing::visual depth charges::a smak of
> smeared black broken towers::jagged cartoon plane-bites::gaseous
> ][price-warred][ nausea & blood f.low.ing::sepia hotellian crashing
> orwellian::trapped N caged in bombs of pictured glass filters
> [tvscreenic]::x.tremist N d.ranged media outlets drown in personalized
> life-loading
>
>
> ::
> "we will find these ppl and they will s][b][uffer][the tragic]["
> ::
>

> acronyms splice cataclysm via the per.sonal::[FBICIANBCCNNNYPD]::kabullish
> scrape-goating::bleeding jet-propelled aggression & plangent hell::bone &
> m.etal sh][r][ocking::economy locked down N dust gravity up::pocket
> ][dis][functioning in streets with phone sav][i][oured dramas::debri
> polygon][e][ bl][g][izzards::zombies of masked
post-x.plosion-corpses::deaf
> N d][f][umb][ling][ed::a sunset of fog loss & automobilic peace::home
> videoed heros suck big bucked glory::war rhetoric meets
> m][ilitary][elodrama::cliches ab][cessing][ounding on CNNesqued
> TV::blank][et][ cover.age][of war][::ATM's blanked in a frozen
> rush::billowing I.D. checks N stumbling news.reading::National
> Guard][ant][s in reality smears::trauma networks vs bloodlust
> demeanors::televised static force-colonised
>
> ************************************
>
> _::[post] 11th hr Reality Smear::_
>
> ::[post] 11 hrs::
>
>
> liquid mobile vomit news & faces text-message glowing::
> targets-seeking floating chrome flame flowers::
> asbestos ground-zero breathing::
> visual depth charges::
> a communicative-junky smack of smeared black broken towers::
> jagged cartoon plane-bites::
> gaseous price-warred nausea & blood levels low and flowing::
> sepia hotels crashing orwellian::
> trapped & caged in bombs of pictured glass filters [TV screenic]::
> extremist & deranged media outlets drown in personalized life-loading
>
>
> ::
> "we will find these ppl and they will suffer [and buffer the tragic]"
> ::
>
> acronyms splice cataclysm via the sonic personal::
> [FBI.CIA.NBC.CNN.NYPD]::
> kabullish scrape-goating::
> bleeding jet-propelled aggression & plangent hell::
> bone & metal rock-shocking::
> economy locked down & dust gravity up::
> pocket/cell disfunctioning in streets with phone savioured dramas::
> debri pentagon blizzards::
> zombies of masked post-explosion-corpses::
> deaf & dumbed-fumbling::
> a sunset of fog loss & automobilic peace::
> home videoed heros suck big bucked glory::
> war rhetoric meets military melodrama::
> cliches abcessing & abounding on CNNesqued TV::
> blanket coverage of war::
> ATM's blanked in a frozen rush::
> billowing I.D. checks N stumbling newsreaders::
> National Guardants in reality smears::
> trauma networks vs bloodlust demeanors::
> televised static force-colonised
>
> .           .    ....         .....
>   net.wurker][mez][
> pro.ject.ile x.blooms.x .go.here.
>       xXXx
>               ./.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:54 AM
>
> liquid mo.][vomit N][bile news face glow::target][s][-seeking floating
> chrome fl][ame][owers::asbestos breathing::visual depth charges::a smak of
> smeared black broken towers::jagged cartoon plane-bites::gaseous
> ][price-warred][ nausea & blood f.low.ing::sepia hotellian crashing
> orwellian::trapped N caged in bombs of pictured glass filters
> [tvscreenic]::x.tremist N d.ranged media outlets drown in personalized
> life-loading

> ::
> "we will find these ppl and they will s][b][uffer][the tragic]["
> ::

> acronyms splice cataclysm via the per.sonal::[FBICIANBCCNNNYPD]::kabullish
> scrape-goating::bleeding jet-propelled aggression & plangent hell::bone &
> m.etal sh][r][ocking::economy locked down N dust gravity up::pocket
> ][dis][functioning in streets with phone sav][i][oured dramas::debri
> polygon][e][ bl][g][izzards::zombies of masked
post-x.plosion-corpses::deaf
> N d][f][umb][ling][ed::a sunset of fog loss & automobilic peace::home
> videoed heros suck big bucked glory::war rhetoric meets
> m][ilitary][elodrama::cliches ab][cessing][ounding on CNNesqued
> TV::blank][et][ cover.age][of war][::ATM's blanked in a frozen
> rush::billowing I.D. checks N stumbling news.reading::National
> Guard][ant][s in reality smears::trauma networks vs bloodlust
> demeanors::televised static force-colonised
>
>
>
>
>
> .           .    ....         .....
>   net.wurker][mez][
> pro.ject.ile x.blooms.x .go.here.
>       xXXx

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:28 AM

>
> sadness.
>
> from tv:
> http://www.geocities.com/newsgrist/Siege2.html
>
> from my fire escape:
> http://www.geocities.com/newsgrist/Siege3.html
>
>
>
> best,
> j
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:30 AM

> >liquid mo.][vomit N][bile news face glow::target][s][-seeking floating
> >chrome fl][ame][owers::asbestos breathing::visual depth charges::a smak
of
> >smeared black broken towers::jagged cartoon plane-bites::gaseous
> >][price-warred][ nausea & blood f.low.ing::sepia hotellian crashing
>
>
> friends and relatives ok
>
> but smoke plumes still engulf us
>
>
> >orwellian::trapped N caged in bombs of pictured glass filters
> >[tvscreenic]::x.tremist N d.ranged media outlets drown in personalized
> >life-loading
> >
>
>
> we are in limbo
>
> waiting to find out the degree we may be personally overwhelmed
>
>
> >::
> >"we will find these ppl and they will s][b][uffer][the tragic]["
> >::
>
> this is not the USA but still I am waiting:
>
> no enemy to identify
>
> no personal grief.
>
> work in stasis.
>
> normal life on hold.
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >acronyms splice cataclysm via the
per.sonal::[FBICIANBCCNNNYPD]::kabullish
> >scrape-goating::bleeding jet-propelled aggression & plangent hell::bone &
> >m.etal sh][r][ocking::economy locked down N dust gravity up::pocket
> >][dis][functioning in streets with phone sav][i][oured dramas::debri
> >polygon][e][ bl][g][izzards::zombies of masked
post-x.plosion-corpses::deaf
> >N d][f][umb][ling][ed::a sunset of fog loss & automobilic peace::home
> >videoed heros suck big bucked glory::war rhetoric meets
> >m][ilitary][elodrama::cliches ab][cessing][ounding on CNNesqued
> >TV::blank][et][ cover.age][of war][::ATM's blanked in a frozen
> >rush::billowing I.D. checks N stumbling news.reading::National
> >Guard][ant][s in reality smears::trauma networks vs bloodlust
> >demeanors::televised static force-colonised
>
> waiting
>
> for
>
> some
>
> resolution.
>
>
> I have no need for hate
>
> but i need to know who did it.
>
> it's a grotesque mystery, painted in militaristic terms.
>
> thousands upon thousands dead. thousands bleeding. millions stunned.
>
> i want out of this nightmare. i want to know who wanted this.
>
> Biti

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:10 AM

>
> ::[post] 11 hrs::
>
>
> liquid mobile vomit news & faces text-message glowing::
> targets-seeking floating chrome flame flowers::
> asbestos ground-zero breathing::
> visual depth charges::
> a communicative-junky smack of smeared black broken towers::
> jagged cartoon plane-bites::
> gaseous price-warred nausea & blood levels low and flowing::
> sepia hotels crashing orwellian::
> trapped & caged in bombs of pictured glass filters [TV screenic]::
> extremist & deranged media outlets drown in personalized life-loading

> ::
> "we will find these ppl and they will suffer [and buffer the tragic]"
> ::
>
>
> acronyms splice cataclysm via the sonic personal::
> [FBI.CIA.NBC.CNN.NYPD]::
> kabullish scrape-goating::
> bleeding jet-propelled aggression & plangent hell::
> bone & metal rock-shocking::
> economy locked down & dust gravity up::
> pocket/cell disfunctioning in streets with phone savioured dramas::
> debri pentagon blizzards::
> zombies of masked post-explosion-corpses::
> deaf & dumbed-fumbling::
> a sunset of fog loss & automobilic peace::
> home videoed heros suck big bucked glory::
> war rhetoric meets military melodrama::
> cliches abcessing & abounding on CNNesqued TV::
> blanket coverage of war::
> ATM's blanked in a frozen rush::
> billowing I.D. checks N stumbling newsreaders::
> National Guardants in reality smears::
> trauma networks vs bloodlust demeanors::
> televised static force-colonised
>
>
>
> .           .    ....         .....
>   net.wurker][mez][
> pro.ject.ile x.blooms.x .go.here.
>       xXXx

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:08 AM
>
> static immobile cyber vomit hiding their own faces
> and the text-message is empty::
> targets-seeking smugness from another's death::
> asbestos soulless unkind ground-zero breathing::
> no depth::
> a noncommunicative-junky wanking at smeared black broken bodies in
towers::
> jagged cartoon type cirlce jerk laughing at one's dying via plane-bites::
> retort with gaseous text & with nausea, yes your blood levels are
flowing -
> excited:: insepid and orwellian::
> trapped & caged in masculin bombast - and insecurity filters [emotionally
> screenic]::
> lost extremist-deranged using media outlets drowing in personalized
> life-loathing
>
> from a net.wanker]
>
> + i'm a creep

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:55 AM

> I read, hear and see the noise and it is deafening, frightening and also
> suffocating. Tonight I cannot sleep for that noise is hurting bad. it¹s
like
> a continious whine declaring a woeful sense of foreboding. A realisation
of
> how vulnerable life is and how deadly humanity and its insecurities really
> are. Man (little boy child) has been too willing to declare its obsession
> with killing anyone and anything that is worth living for. This
> addictiveness is deep in its emptiness. Profound in its ugliness and
> desperate in its soulless efforts to deny love.
>
> Too many small minded, visionless grunts shooting up on death. The
Bombastic
> spurt of insecure muscle brain rules the day, killing beauty in so many
> different unimaginative ways.
>
> (To all those people who are small minded enough to harness the shallow
> belief that killing will in some way solve their personal problems. Think
> again little man, it only serves to reflect the lack of real courage and
> respect you hold for another¹s life. Shame on you - failure)
>
> marc garrett
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:30 AM

> ++
>
> And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it
was
> in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was
> bitter.
>
> Revelations 10:10
>
> ++

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:46 AM

> At 02:08 AM 12/09/01 +0000, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >static immobile cyber vomit hiding their own faces
> >and the text-message is empty::
> >targets-seeking smugness from another's death::
> >asbestos soulless unkind ground-zero breathing::
> >no depth::
> >a noncommunicative-junky wanking at smeared black broken bodies in
towers::
> >jagged cartoon type cirlce jerk laughing at one's dying via plane-bites::
> >retort with gaseous text & with nausea, yes your blood levels are
flowing -
> >excited:: insepid and orwellian::
> >trapped & caged in masculin bombast - and insecurity filters [emotionally
> >screenic]::
> >lost extremist-deranged using media outlets drowing in personalized
> >life-loathing
> >
> >from a net.wanker]
> >
>
> a response to a similar message posted from the fibreculture list:
>
> At 09:21 AM 12/09/01 +0800, you wrote:
> >
> >This may just be my personal (over)reaction, but I find such posts
> >offensive, insensitive and utterly unhelpful in trying to think through
the
> >events of last night in the U.S.
>
>
> Helen,
>
> My intention was in no way to cause offence, demonstrate insensitivity, or
> delay information that would offer enhanced understanding of the
> circumstances surrounding the American tragedy. It was my intention to
> offer a perspective [in a creative format, as well as deal with my
personal
> terror] regarding the relevant information that I am attempting to
> negotiate - via geographical and communicative distances/boundaries.
>
> I'll henceforth refrain from sending any subsequent responses to the list.
>
> Regards,
> Mez Breeze
>
> ***********
>
> let me know if my posts are unwanted here 2.
>
> .           .    ....         .....
>   net.wurker][mez][
> pro.ject.ile x.blooms.x .go.here.
>       xXXx

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:14 AM

> according to the 6 degress of separation theory i am hoping someone on
this
> list will know of the following new yorkers/artist extraordinaires i am
> hoping and praying to hear from...
>
> does anyone know of the whereabouts of:
>
> Amy Kraft (kick ass video)
> Nicole Keys (ditto)
> Gary Dunkin (shoots for the Times)
> Sandra Dillon (crazy girl)
> Kimberley Hassett (more kick ass video)
> Saul Paloma (saul is saul)
> Sean McDevitt (kick ass photographer and crazy man)
> Matt Nuzzi (old college art friend)
> Rob Erickson (old college art friend)
>
> i'd appreciate any info...
>
> worried and praying in new england
>
> kate sibole
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:53 AM
>
> knife-techne meets hi-d.pravity::[antithetical-n.struments as jet-scum
> scatters]::fire f][r][ighting stun-rumbles::tight non-tremor palaver 4m
> eye-beaded head-puppet::speech writers glossing overtime::subtle conflict
> C++.man.tics::d][manding][esperate allied shoulders call::speci][al][es
> opera][tion][s::hiccuping hizztorical pearled harbouring::ambu.lancing &
> wailing::hi-pitching & glass plained
> s][equence][lices::manhatt][an][eresque tastes awry::co][mmuter][rporate
> ][g][r][ey][outines amiss::grande centrality smashed::chewed cabled
> breakages::caul.ing election-abort::gritlocking::pay-phonic
> realms::ho.][blood][spit][ting][.al totaling::medic.cal.ling
> knee.d][eep][ed::streaming m.mergency bleats::c][sl][oughing N
oxygenically
> caught::
>
         .    ....         .....
>   net.wurker][mez][
> pro.ject.ile x.blooms.x .go.here.
>       xXXx

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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:47 AM

> my mom on the phone --- she's absolutely convinced that the concurrent
> bombing of kabul is pure american pedigree. my mom is egyptian, and an
> intense post-colonial psycho old-school muslim (ie: not fundementalist,
> but euro...) she says we are bombing kabul, incognito.
>
> what do you guys think?
>
>
> j
>
>
> + i'm a creep

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:52 AM

> dear rhizomers:
>
> i've gotten a lot of worried emails today--just wanted to let you know
that
> those of us who work at rhizome.org in new york are all okay.
>
> what a tragedy. it's hard to comprehend.
>
> -mark
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:09 AM
>
> http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/latest/DS.p20-r/si.kokx.shtml
>
>
>
> + ...

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:35 AM

> Terrence writes;
>
> I don't think so. Apparently some rebels were lofting a few rockets.
>
> T.
>
>
> Joy Garnett wrote:
>
> > my mom on the phone --- she's absolutely convinced that the concurrent
> > bombing of kabul is pure american pedigree. my mom is egyptian, and an
> > intense post-colonial psycho old-school muslim (ie: not fundementalist,
> > but euro...) she says we are bombing kabul, incognito.
> >
> > what do you guys think?
> >
> > j

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:44 AM

> Main Entry: ter.ror.ism
> Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m
> Function: noun
> Date: 1795
> : the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
> - ter.ror.ist /-&r-ist/ adjective or noun
> - ter.ror.is.tic /"ter-&r-'is-tik/ adjective

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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:27 AM
>
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> __________________________________________
> Get your free domain name and domain-based
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:41 AM
>
> http://www.geocities.com/genius-2000/Rolling2001.html
>
> ++
>
> Let's steer,
>
> Max Herman

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:56 AM

> Terrorist instructions hidden online
> http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/2001-02-05-binladen-side.htm
>
> By Jack Kelley, USA TODAY
>
> WASHINGTON - Osama bin Laden and other Muslim extremists
> are posting encrypted, or scrambled, photographs and messages
> on popular Web sites and using them to plan terrorist activities
> against the United States and its allies, U.S. officials say. The
> officials say bin Laden and his associates are using the Internet
> to conduct what some are calling "e-jihad," or holy war.
>
>
> ==================
>
>
> There is more at the link above- interestingly enough, they were
> using porn and sports sites to post the messages. When I think
> of holy war, I think of two things: sports, and porn.
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:31 AM

> Terrence writes;
>
> Eryk Salvaggio wrote:
>
> > When I think
> > of holy war, I think of two things: sports, and porn.
> >
> > Really? I think of koran and toilet paper
> >
> > T.
> >

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:28 AM

> Terrence writes;
>
> in-flight security measures spin in my mind.
>
> I recall standing below the world Trade Center full of wonder staring
> upwards in october 96' thinking at that time about the 93 parking lot
> car bombing if they had someone like a special forces personel with
> flack jackets on the roof fulltime spotting. It was just a fantasy. I
> was off course. This was not like the Italian embasy in Lisbon that
> sunny spring day in 92 where the dressed smiling machine gun toting
> guards gave me directions. New York was a safe secure place of economic
> power, but I did still wonder, and had held that sense of security in
> my head till now.
>
> T

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:01 PM

> Veiled tides
> wash your buildings
> away
> before
> the sea
>
> there lie
> your
> bomb burnt bodies
> their cenotath the street
>
> counting upon the dead
> to inform you of the missing
>
> a crescent of smoke
> weaves across the sky
>
> a holy war
> for god's
> asylum
> observed by unbelieving eyes
>
>
> mac dunlop

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:41 AM

> Amsterdam's thoughts are with you,
> the people are stunned here by the news...
>
> + he meant to shine to the end of the line
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:50 PM

> the war is always on
>
> between ones that do not want war and ones that want it
>
> this is a small battle won for those who want it
>
>
> +
>
> nikola tosic
>
> nekada
>
> +

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:10 PM

> 1. If anyone has gotten word from Kathy Brew or her
> staff (... Thundergulch Lower Manhattan Cultural
> Council 5 World Trade Center) please let the list
> know...
>
> 2. I'm okay. A group from my work got together and
> walked off the island (from the 89th street to
> Brooklyn across the 59th street) bridge. No work
> today. Things are still weird here. Sirens all night
> and still more this morning.
>
> 3. Netart...(cause it's a net art list and I need to
> think of something else in life...). As i was walking
> around this morning, for some reason I began to think
> about Wolfgang's work at Postmasters. In the show was
> a duel projected web cam (around 5' x 16'?). It is a
> view of lower Manhattan from Brooklyn. If the work was
> on at 9:00 am, one would begin to see the destruction
> of the day unfold within the work. It was not planed
> to be there, the cam just gives you a framed view of
> "reality". Since the opening, I've been trying to go
> over all the ways that this work differs from video. A
> new one came clear this morning. The inability to
> edit.
>
> peace out/

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:41 PM

> At 05:10 AM 9/12/2001 -0700, Mark River wrote:
> >1. If anyone has gotten word from Kathy Brew or her
> >staff (... Thundergulch Lower Manhattan Cultural
> >Council 5 World Trade Center) please let the list
> >know...
>
> Got an email from kbrew yesterday evening from another list. She's okay,
> she was not at work yesterday. There was an artists residency program in
> Tower 1 though, and she doesn't know yet if any of the artists were there
> in the morning yesterday.
>
>
> mark
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:46 PM

> After the attempted bombing of the towers a few years back I was
> wondering ; how much of the administration for food and manufactured
> goods distribution for the entire country was located in those
> buildings? How is this gonna affect prices in the near future?
>
> Mikidot
> _____________________________________________________
> ÷
> ÷ The internet mourns the people who died in the World Trade Center.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:15 PM

> ++
>
> http://www.cosmoetica.com/Miscellaneous.htm#THE TWIN TOWERS CANON
>
> ++
>
> Dan Schneider grew up in New York and wrote this a while ago. I'm going
to
> adopt it as an important poem, even if after analysis it's not as good as
say
> "Lapis Lazuli," to help keep me from experiencing this bad event with a
> news-brain.
>
> Fuck the news-brain.
>
>
> Max Herman

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:54 PM

>
> mark river: kathy brew was not in her office and is apparently ok, word
> has it... have got no idea about the rest of thundergulch staff...
> ...any news about the artists in the wtc studios anyone??
>
>
> + he meant to shine to the end of the line

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:38 PM

> Dear Rhizomers,
>
> I was horrified at seeing all the people who worked in the buildings
> dying and jumping to their deaths. I had to write something to
> express my sympathy with all Americans. Glad that Rhizome people as
> well as my friends Mark and Pawel in N.Y. are all ok.
>
> Mikidot
> _____________________________________________________
> ÷
> ÷ The internet now worri

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:08 PM

> At 08:41 12/09/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >At 05:10 AM 9/12/2001 -0700, Mark River wrote:
> > >1. If anyone has gotten word from Kathy Brew or her
> > >staff (... Thundergulch Lower Manhattan Cultural
> > >Council 5 World Trade Center) please let the list
> > >know...
> >
> >Got an email from kbrew yesterday evening from another list. She's okay,
> >she was not at work yesterday. There was an artists residency program in
> >Tower 1 though, and she doesn't know yet if any of the artists were there
> >in the morning yesterday.
>
>
> thats a relief. i tried to email kathy and scott patterson last night, and
> both got bounced. has anybody heard from scott?
>
> its good to hear that mark and the team is ok. is rachel greene ok as
well?
> anybody spoken to carol stenakas? my geography of new york is a bit rusty,
> but it'd be good to hear that they were all fine and weren't in the area
> for any reason...
>
>
> matt
>
es when you log on.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:04 PM

> hey spacecake... soak up the scene? with what? for fuck's sake, go help!
> or i shall chastise you severly - let's not be spectators here...
>
> xoxo,erika

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:10 PM

> >
> >its good to hear that mark and the team is ok. is rachel greene ok
> >as well? anybody spoken to carol stenakas? my geography of new york
> >is a bit rusty, but it'd be good to hear that they were all fine and
> >weren't in the area for any reason...
> >
>
> Carol Stakenas and all at Creative Time are okay... Carol's email
> which I read first thing yesterday morning was how I found out about
> this disaster.
>
> I'm so sad about this, I can't even think.
>
> c davies

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:19 PM

> Luckily, I recently quit my job in the finance
> district and moved upstate...
>
> -josh
>
>
>
> > Really.
> >
> > Those in NYC who have been quiet today, please give
> > us a shout.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Biti
> >

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: il soffio

> >attacco a manhattan:
> http://baccelli1.interfree.it/webcam.htm
>
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:26 PM
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:25:32 -0400 (EDT)
>
> not sure if you can get the whole article w/out registering, but here
> goes:
>
> from Transfert:
>
http://www.transfert.net/fr/cyber_societe/article.cfm?idx_rub=87&idx_art=729
3
>
> Attentats : les avis de recherche se
>             multiplient sur le Net
>
>              par Julie Krassovsky
>              mis en ligne le 12 septembre 2001
>              Laide aux victimes des attentats sorganise sur le Net, via
> des sites
>              qui abandonnent parfois leur vocation premire pour participer
> un
>              grand effort de solidarit.
>
>
> [...]
>
>              Lien(s) de l'article :
>              Site de William Shunn
>              http://www.shunn.net/
>              Site de lUniversit de Berkeley
>              http://safe.millennium.berkeley.edu/
>              Site Prodigy
>              http://www.prodigy.net
>              Site du City guide
>              http://www.ny.com
>
>
> + he meant to shine to the end of the line

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:05 PM

Con preghiera di pubblicazione/diffusione

Bologna - Sabato 14/07/2001

Bologna Social Forum
Sempre e comunque contro la guerra
http://www.contropiani2000.org/documentazione/eventi/g8/contro_guerra.htm

Siamo di nuovo in piazza per condannare quello che consideriamo l'inizio di
una guerra contro la pace, i diritti, la democrazia delle moltitudini ovvero
l'altro mondo che vogliamo costruire
Esprimiamo il nostro orrore per le vittime innocenti sotto le macerie che
hanno pagato con la vita un vero e proprio atto di guerra costruito con
tattica spietata e mezzi inediti contro gli obiettivi simbolici del potere
economico e militare mondiale.
Lo facciamo con assoluta determinazione e con la coerenza di chi l'ha
contestato quando era questo potere a fare vittime in Iraq, in Medio Oriente
o nei Balcani, perché la sua logica non ci appartiene quando affama e quando
bombarda.
Scegliamo di non restare in silenzio oggi e assicuriamo che non resteremo in
silenzio di fronte ad un'eventuale escalation di violenza e rappresaglie,
che già vengono tristemente annunciate.
Rivendichiamo il diritto ed il dovere della società civile mondiale, con la
voce ed il sogno di Porto Alegre, di tornare protagonista nel "luogo" della
politica per non lasciare nelle mani dei potenti della terra le sorti di
questo pianeta.

Appuntamenti:
* ore 17.30 in piazza Nettuno: presidio
* ore 21.30 presso il TPO (via Lenin 3) assemblea pubblica con proiezione di
video e dirette tv
______________________
Forum Sociale Mondiale
Porto Alegre 11 Settembre 2001

Di fronte ai tragici avvenimenti che hanno avuto luogo ieri negli Stati
Uniti, e considerando le notizie diffuse sinora sui fatti, i rappresentanti
del Comitato di Organizzazione e del Consiglio Internazionale del Forum
Sociale Mondiale, riunitisi a Porto Alegre per presentare il prossimo
congresso del 2002 (dal 31/01 al 5/2), intendono manifestare pubblicamente.:

* condannando con forza gli attentati e l'inaccettabile sacrificio di vite
umane;
* manifestando incondizionata solidarietà al popolo americano
* affermando nuovamente la difesa della democrazia, della giustizia sociale
e della pace per la soluzione dei conflitti che dividono l'umanità;
* invitando i governi, le istituzioni internazionali, i movimenti sociali,
le organizzazioni non governative e i cittadini e le cittadine del mondo a
reagire contro qualsiasi tentativo di usare il sentimento di repulsione
verso gli attentati per promuovere ricatti, vendette o terrorismo di stato
contro altri governi e popoli, come già accaduto in simili situazioni
storiche. Allo stesso modo, invitano a contenere pregiudizi che potrebbero
condurre a preconcetti e discriminazioni verso altri popoli e nazioni;
* affermando, infine, la necessità primaria dell'assoluta difesa dei
principi e degli spazi democratici in ogni paese e nel mondo e la lotta
costante a favore dei diritti fondamentali della persona umana.

UN ALTRO MONDO E' POSSIBILE

Rappresentanti del Comitato di Organizzazione del FSM
Rappresentanti del Consiglio Internazionale dell'FSM
Social Forum di Genova - Vittorio Agnolotto
Servizio Pace e Giustizia - Adolfo Pérez Esquivel

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:33 PM

> ++
>
> Fluxus Peace Action Against Terror, Number 0001
>
> Go and make friends with a stranger today, wherever you live, in whatever
> city. Tell them why you are doing it--"an internet project against
terror"
> will suffice--and make it work. Don't ask too much of the person, and ask
> them not to ask too much of you.
>
> Document your new friendship by contributing it to the Genius 2000
Conference
> at http://www.geocities.com/genius-2000/Conference2001.html
>
> I will host text documentation sent in email form on my site; if you have
> pictures etc. please send url only. Forward this email widely.
>
>
> Make a new friend today,
>
> Max Herman

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:53 PM

> yes diane.. i'm forwarding it right now. take care, -a
>
> + + +
>
> hey Alex,
>
> my email to the list just bounced...
> just wanted to send a note to the list to hear from
> LMCC, Thundergulch and Franklin Funace people,
> they have offices in and around the wtc towers, wanted
> to make sure they missed the explosions....
>
> could you please forward this to the list?
>
> -diane

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:33 PM

> I used to work for a small humanitarian organization, Grassroots
> International, and we worked with the institutions of the PLO; we called
> them partners. One of them was the Gaza Community Mental Health Center.
> What follows are remarks from Dr. Eyad Serraj, the center's director.
>
> Yrs.
> Anastasios Kozaitis
>
> ---------------------------------
> Horror in the U.S.
>
> The world today is not the same as it was.
>
> The incredible and horrific terrorist attacks on American targets in New
> York and Washington DC have shocked the world and alarmed people every
where.
>
> We Condemn the killing of innocent people in America and elsewhere.
>
> Attacks on civilians, threats against life and murder are crimes against
> humanity. We, secure in our belief in the sanctity of life, are abhorred
by
> such acts of violence. Arabs and Palestinians who continue to suffer the
> complex tragedy since their uprooting, and the Israeli state sponsored
> violence against them should only stand firm against terror even with the
> knowledge of the long standing support for Israel by successive American
> governments. We absolutely reject the logic that horror and murder is the
> only way to change policies.
>
> The anger due to American policies in the world and in our region should
> not blind us to see that those who were killed and wounded in these
> horrific carnages are our brothers and sisters in humanity. Their murder
> can never be justified. For them and their families we extend our respect,
> and sympathy.
>
> Dr. Eyad El Sarraj
>

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:15 PM

> >vancouver airport closed
> >
> >604 873 3161
> >
> >julian
>
>
> Oh Dude,
>
> TRhe pictures of people falling beside the building was not dust
> specks on the film.
> Or people looking out the windows of the buildings, knowing they were
> going to die then and there.
>
> Mind you, I once fell 5 stories off a mountain in Mexico, 1985. Was
> heading towards sharp rocks and saw that I was gonna die, and I
> thought "I'm dog meat." Then I thought "since I was going to die,
> would happen eventually anyways, this is interesting, wonder what
> happens now, it's gonna be a big moment, cool trip." Then time
> really slowed down. Halway down, I saw Garth, one of the owners of
> the Santropol cafe (Montreal), who'd gone ahead. He was turning
> towards me and I had a series of thoughts which were realised, each a
> split second after I thought them;
>
> if he sees me
> if he extends his hand
> if we link arms it will swing me out over the water
>
> But then I saw that I had'nt swung out that far, was coming back and
> pulling him in
> so I let go, thinking better one than two, he held on for a second
> until he realised why I let go
> then he released my hand and I was flying towards water now, "how
> deep is it" I went down nine feet of water into soft sand underneath.
> I feel a splash and Gart had fallen in near me, we both floated to
> the surface and up the mountain I could see Susie, my girlfriend,
> huge eyes surprised to see I survived.
>
> Once we all got at the bottom of the mountainb we all looked at each
> other and said that was interesting, all too awe stunned by the
> moment and we just let it go and went sunbathing.
>
> Miklos

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:06 PM

>
> sorry, accidentally posted that first one.
>
> Just a few thoughts if you care to read them:
>
> Yesterday I saw some things I will never forget for
> my entire life. I had a 8:30 class on tues morning,
> and when class was released, I stepped outside and the
> entire world had changed. Someone stopped me, an
> aquaintance: "the twin towers are blown up, Ive got to
> go", and he scuttled off. I immediately began pacing
> around town to verify the information, it was true,
> some kind of explosion had occured. By the time I
> made it back to campus, dozens of people could be seen
> crying, screaming, etc. They held a special news
> screening in a lecture hall. Here others my age and
> many older people sat around a large screen, watching
> the images of tradgedy unfold, watching an event that
> would change the world forever. By the time I had got
> there, one tower had collapsed, we were watching live
> footage while the commentator recapped what had just
> happened. It was here that we could see the second
> tower just begin to fall. I will never forget the
> sound the audience made at that point, a gasp like
> some valve in each of them had just been loosened,
> releasing some kind of vital essence into the
> atmosphere of the room. After the tower fell, a young
> woman wrote on the chalk board: "Jesus is coming
> soon!, get ready. " I felt I lost something at that
> moment as well. Today, it seems like people are
> reorganizing themselves, both internally and
> externally, reassesing thier stance on life and thier
> attitudes towards action and thought. Some were
> frantic, some were depressed, some indifferent, and
> even some ecstatic. I myself do not know what to
> expect, it seems that blind optimism could be
> detrimental to myself and others. I dont know what
> will happen, to me, to the people I know, the country
> I was born in. We are in a state of shock.
>
> -josh

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 12:55 PM

>
>
>
>
>
> revenge = stupidity

----- Original Message -----

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