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LarsG17
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Angry Boycott Walmart

I was on another board that had a post about Walmart and their issues with firearms. I did a search and was amazed at what I found. I personally don't shop there, but now I'm going to tell everyone I know to not shop there also. Here is just a few of the things that I found.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/walmart.html
http://www.walmartwatch.com/

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Nope won't do it, Walmart is still the largest retailer of firearms in America, I see them as still more friend then foe. I would still bet Walmart is responsable for more people coming into gun ownership in a positive way then not. I don't really like the firearms walmarts sell and buy few there (more a milisurp guy) but the way they want to do business is their right also. I might not agree with store policy but that's there choice. I might suggest a better way to deal with the problem would be to start youur own store, do a better job of it and beat walmart at their own game. Now that's the capitalist/American way

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LarsG17
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They do sell a lot of guns and that's great. But think about where your money is going when you buy their products.

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They do sell a lot of guns and that's great. But think about where your money is going when you buy their products.
You mean like keep Savage, Remmingtion, Winchester, and Marlin in the firearm business?

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LarsG17
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Don't stop buying the guns just buy them from somewhere else. People that buy first time at Walmart will then come to the range and be educated. This company keeps people down.

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daemon734
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i hear what you are saying, and any gun you buy at wal-mart you can find somewhere else cheaper, ammo too. these people have been taking a dump on the general population for years and im glad you posted that. not even mentioning the foreign human rights violations and scare tactics employed by this company, i believe any company that publicly states it has no place for unions and standardization of workers rights should be royally bitch slapped by the federal government and made to change its policies completely. our government is supposed to be here to protect us, the general workers, from this crap.

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our government is supposed to be here to protect us, the general workers, from this crap.



Where in the Consitution did you read that? I thought the whole Second Admendment idea is for self protection. And as for workers rights/protection I'll bet you'll find many more scholars supporting the idea that the founding fathers would of been against any restrictions on business. We are free to do as we please, the marketplace should decide who stays and who goes in business, it's when the Gov't gets involved we get screwed. Don't like Walmart, don't shop there.

It's been 12 years since I've bought a rifle from Walmart and they haven't seemed to missed my thousands spent in firearms since, but if they go you can bet alot of people will never join the ranks of follow gun owners due to shear lack of available outlets to buy. Walmart maybe isn't the best friend gun owners have but they are a friend and as such do deserve some support. I have always said I'll go after the half friends we gun owners have once all the full enemies we have are gone. There are enough completely anti gun businesses out there to keep us busy instead of making those on the fence into new enemies.

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19kilo
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Crap, first K-Mart is off my shopping list, Then Target makes it on that list (because it is owned by the Dayton family in MN. The same family that allowed the fucking puke Mark Dayton to spend 12 million to buy a Senate seat, what a total red commie socialist! ) then Wally world is on the "do not shop list" WTF? I don't have any large 'mart' left that I can run into and buy some diapers for the kid, a 2 liter of soda and a lawn chair.
I guess from now on I only make or barter for all goods and services.
PS If you have a Target store by shopping there you are contributing to one of the biggest socialist Senators in the Nation.
KILO OUT = and pissed.

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RedDevil
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So now what am I supposed to do with my $50 gift card?

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Does Walmart still sell firearms despite all the anti pressure and hogwash?

Does Walmart still sell ammo?

What exactly is the problem that requires boycotting a store that sells firearms, ammunition, gun magazines (the reading kind, asshole) sells fishing gear and more?


Local FFL's? Do they offer their local employees benefits? Walmart does.

BTW-
I don't buy squat at wallyworld except an occasional magazine, again the kind a person reads.

Also beings you care so much for the workers and greeters at wallyworld?

Everyone planning on boycotting every fastfood chain for screwing their workers..

Boycotting about 90% of the clothing manufacturers.

All automobile manufacturers, those of you that actually buy an American made car, truck or hell even any American made product..

I know American made cars and trucks suck.. American workers do a shitty job..
Hi there you shitty American workers...

So lets see as you walk through life, naked, barefoot, starving and without a job...

Just yell... It was a great boycott...

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dryfire
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HDR is the voice of reason. Wal-Mart is not doing anything different than any other dealer in the State of MO. I know it is different in other states. If we all start pointing fingers at everyone for gun policy, then sooner or later, no one will be considered friendly. If you are a law abidding citizen, why do worry about crap like this.

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LarsG17
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Never mind. I guess that I just have more options locally than do most.

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I have had a family member work at W-mart for several years. Guess what they are no better or no worse than IBM, GM, GE, Ford or any other large corporation. The goal of every company is to make money for their stockholders. Guess what W-Mart during it's roll out in the small towns had a employee stock program. I know of more than a few that gained a retirement that they could not have gotten from anyone else in town. Also many of the first employees becasme rich from the stock program.

One of the stories in the links was about RVer stopping for the night and sleeping in the W-mart parking lot. Our local W-mart does the same and I have done the same when I was driving crosscountry and need a few hours sleep. When my parents are on the road with their RV know that if they need to stop because of schedule delays there is always a friendly W-Mart. Go in talk to the manager park out of the way and in the dark sleep while the security guard watches over you and back on the road. Much more friendly than the no overnight parking signs at stripcenters.

The made in the USA tag is one of the most abused tags around. Some manufactures run their products across processing barges documented as US vessels and instant made in the USA tag.

W-Mart does not get all of my business. The little family owned fruit stand has better veggies and fruit. The lady that runs a little state inspection station that took in her sisters troubled child and turned her into an A student. Then took in another sister in declining health making her life pleasant until the end gets all of my inspection work and I send everyone that I can to her business.The Greek guy that runs a little lunch counter between two national chains gets my lunch and snack business when I am in the area. When I am on the road the Chick gets my business because they are closed on Sunday and I respect that position. When I need speakers or components I go to a shop owned by an orential guy and his wife. They speak less than broken english communication is slow and difficult but they are working hard trying to build their dream life in this country and trying learn the language. On the flip side the guy that has a computer shop, rips off his customers and has his prices jacked to the sky can dry up and blow away for all that I care. Every purchase I make is based on who has earned my business with service or that they are trying and can use a break.

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daemon734
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i see what youre saying about the government interfering with free enterprise, but i think there needs to be a bare minimum of government enforced regulations to protect workers. first they could get their asses in gear and raise minimum wage, changing it from what it is, a livable salary for the year 1974. What they say about these big corporations killing small business is true, but is also the essence of capitalism, to which we all hold dear. all im saying is there needs to be limits, which are higher than they are now, because capitalism in theory has no end, technically allowing one person to suck everything out for himself. With our system he who is born with a silver spoon in his mouth has a great advantage over the regular guy, giving future generations less chance at success. Walmart should be looking at anti-trust charges to check it and reduce its hold over well, everything, as well as sanctions against it from the government for using factories in countries that have no human rights laws whatsoever. those factories should be open for US inspection to determine those sanctions. i like cheap stuff, but id rather pay a little more to give everyone else a little piece of the pie.

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I know American made cars and trucks suck.. American workers do a shitty job..
Hi there you shitty American workers...

So lets see as you walk through life, naked, barefoot, starving and without a job...

Just yell... It was a great boycott...



Ya know what ASS HOLE.... I have a sticker on my Tool box (no don't go check'n yer ol lady's snatch cause that sticker is long gone) that says: HUNGRY? OUT OF WORK? EAT YOUR IMPORT.
I realize you have a right to your opinion.....so do I.....FUCK YOU IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS COUNTRY & IT'S PRODUCT'S & WORKERS.
TAKE YOUR PUNK ASS & JAP JUNK THE FUCK OUT OF THE USA.

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Not that this has anything to do with this thread's topic, but it kind of reminds me. One of the marketing guys at work brought in a page of information about Wally World a while back. Bunch of stats -- how much of this is sold, how much of that is sold, etc. One of the stats said that 80 some percent of their losses (theft) is from their employees. That didn't surprise me in the least, there was a Wal Mart in my college town that the kids around campus worked at. They robbed em blind.

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Preservation of property is the end of government- John Locke, Dead egg-head white guy, happened to be a philosophical genius and extended Founding Father.

Gov'ts only job is to protect your property from theft, destruction, or cheaters.

The gov't does not have to guarantee you a wage, you socialist. If you want a wage you can "live on", lower your standard of living or perform a task someone thinks is worth more money.

Nor do they have to protect you from mean employers. Go find a better one.

Nor should businesses that achieve success by wise business decisions and providing a great product at an great price be punished by a gov't because they're smarter and better businessmen than their competitors and "that's not fair"

The gov'ts only concern with business is to keep everyone honest.

The bottom line is that the individual is to be responsible for himself. Provide your own living, make your own business decisions, suffer the consequences and reap the rewards of those decisions, and do so without the interference of gov't unless you somehow resort to theft of some kind.

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i hear what you are saying, and any gun you buy at wal-mart you can find somewhere else cheaper, ammo too.


BS.

In my town, the ammo costs almost twice as much at any gunshop, the weapons cost twice as much used as walmarts do NEW, most (but not all) of the gunshops in this town have employees with chips on their shoulders, very rude etc, whereas walmart just has normal people working it.

The reason all these "reports" keep cropping up, is because walmart does what they say they do: roll back prices. Any idiot realizes that you will pay less when you buy a shipment of 2 million items, as opposed to a shipment of 20 items.

Is walmart putting companies out of business? Yes, because people are exersizing their right of shopping where they want, and choose to make their dollar stretch further.

A gunshop near my house had Sar-3s, I was interested so went down to see. They were used, abused and were missing parts, and the dealer didn't know if he even had any clips.

He wanted $495 for it. Maybe you have gunshops worth supporting.
I dont.

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19kilo
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Shit all you guys that want a "livable wage" and government supervision must have voted for Klinton, Gore, Wellstone, Dayton, Klinton (part II).
Why not have the government look after everyone? We will then no longer need any firearms, or other means to protect ourselves, our government will do everything for us!
Christ what a great fucking idea! Why hasn't someone thought of this before??? Oh wait a second they already tried that, its called socialism! If you want a livable wage how much is that???$15/hour? What if the job only produces about $9/hour profit for the owner? Should he just suck it up and take a loss??? Why not have a minimum and a maximum wage? No one really needs to make over $1,000,000 a year now do they???
If these warm fuzzy ideas are your thing move to F'ing France! Try to bring your firearms with you. Try to find a job (last I saw unemployment was over 20%) And if you do find a job you will have the shit taxed out of you becasue they will take over 50% of you income to give it to the lazy bastards that don't deserve to make $15/hr but the government declares that even worthless turds must get paid that much per hour...because that is FAIR.
Try pumping your own gas in France, in order to ease unemployment the government banned self-serve gas stations. Now you know why gas is over $5/gal over there.

IF you can't tell sometimes politics gets me a little cranked up. If I offended anyone please tell someone who cares. I always believed that the gun owning populus was of a conservative bend and they were much more likely to distrust government then go crying to them looking for fairness.
KILO OUT...gotta go take my blood pressure meds.

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Wal Mart in my eyes....

I generally don't shop there. I dislike the thought of ONE BIG STORE where you can buy tires, a steak, a vacuum cleaner, etc.
Sam's and Costco also concern me...what happens when the only store you can buy from is one of these big places? How long will it be until there is no competition? Impossible? Do you really want to find out? One giant store for an entire city, where everyone has to work because there is literally no competition. Dad gets the oil changed, mom visits the dentist, and the kids get shuffled off to the giant, germ infested playland. After the oil change, dad heads to the back of the building to change for work...he is a supervisor in the furniture section. Mom, mouth numb with novacaine, decides to get a manicure at the spa in the east wing, until dads' shift is over....all the while, kids attend a nintendo workshop before naptime. SCARY!!! What happens when/if they shut the place down? All of the other stores were assimilated years ago....dad, whats for dinner? Something to think about...
BTW, I also don't believe in unions. I believe you should earn according to how well/hard you work. I think unions make us lazy, why put forth any extra effort if it doesn't affect my income? If you don't like the working conditions, work somewhere else.

These are opinions, and I am entitled to them...God, Bless America!!!

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