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Misleading Web Page Cons Conference Organizers
It's funny.  Laugh. Posted by timothy on Monday January 08, @03:53AM
from the meeting-people-is-easy dept.
An unnamed correspondent writes: "The New York Times has a story about how an anti-trade group conned a trade conference into inviting a talk from a member using a page at http://www.gatt.org/ that looks like a legitimate WTO/GATT page with a bogus e-mail link to the WTO's director-general. It seems like domain hijacking to me, but the real WTO 'respects the nature of the Internet' and is playing it cool. Funny for those amused by pranks and hoaxes." (Yes, it's the New York Times, so no-login URLs will doubtless soon appear.) I must admit, this made me think about from which misleading domain names it would be coolest to receive such misdirected mail.

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    Democracy (Score:1, Interesting)
    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 08, @04:01AM EST (#3)
    Why, in a democratic society, should anti-trade groups feel they have to con a trade conference? Should they not be able to present their views in the open? Seems to me that there might more progress if the WTO listened to speakers who opposed their viewpoint and the anti-trade groups tried talking instead of providing a venue for looters.
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    • Re:Democracy by SpacePunk (Score:1) Monday January 08, @09:47AM EST
    • Re:Democracy by teatime (Score:1) Monday January 08, @10:27AM EST
    • The WTO is not "in the open"... by fmaxwell (Score:1) Monday January 08, @11:10AM EST
    • Re:Democracy by Confound (Score:1) Tuesday January 09, @03:07PM EST
      Re:Democracy (Score:5, Informative)
      by Cody Hatch (cody@chaos.net.nz) on Monday January 08, @07:19AM EST (#69)
      (User #136430 Info) http://chaos.net.nz/
      By the way, I still don't know what the supposed benefits of a nation joining the W.T.O. are, or what the drawbacks to not joining are supposed to be.

      That's simple. The point of the WTO is a mechanism for "bargaining" down trade barriers--and enforcing the bargains, once struck. The US says that it will drop tarrifs on wine, if the EU drops tarrifs on beef, let's say. The US could unilterally drop tarrifs on wine and be done with it--but the WTO exists to allow the US to trade that drop for another one.

      That's the main reason why countries want to be in--particularly developing countries, which are desperate for lower tarrifs on agricultural products and textiles. They know that the EU would never let their hugely pampered farmers suffer without good cause--the WTO is therefore their best best: If they're lucky, they can trade something unimportant to them (removal of restrictions on foreign ownership of telecoms, let's say) for something vastly beneficial--lowered tarrifs on those goods they export. It's not easy, even with the WTO--witness the current breakdowns (which have little to do with protests--rather, the developing countries are sore that the 1st world hasn't done what it promised last round yet). That's the choice a lot of countries are having to make--stay out in the cold, with no chance of ever having enough clout to get any important barriers lowered...or enter, and have a much better chance.

      Finally, the WTO is there to enforce agreements, once struck (but don't forget it was YOUR politicians that first have to agree). Once the US has agreed not to ban tuna imports, it can't then turn around and ban them, however popular or worthy the cause now is. The fault is that of shortsighted politicians, not the WTO.

      As an example, China has been working very hard to get into the WTO--despite the fact that it entails a massive shake up of their entire economy, and a real chance of political instability. Why are they so keen? Easy--it's the best, maybe even the only way, they can manage to remove the massive barriers that have been set in front of them--and China needs them removed very badly. China has a massivly growing population--either the economy at least matches it, or a nuclear power with the worlds largest standing army, several territorial disputes with other nuclear powers, and several rebellious provinces (one of which is ALSO nuclear armed, probably)...goes BOOM! No, I think we need to keep those peasents in poverty myself--fatter subsidies for the steel workers! What's that you say? Let them eat cake? I couldn't agree more!

      Yeah right... You'll notice that the protestors wearn't Chinese. For that matter, the current head of the WTO is from NZ, population 3.5 million, heavily dependent on agricultural products, mostly wool, cheese, butter, and so forth. Not a particularly important country--which is why NZ is such a strong proponent of free trade. We don't ask for an advantage, we just want a fair go...which is why all my friends are as puzzled as I am about the protesters in Seattle. Fair trade? That's what the WTO is DOING.

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      • Re:Democracy by LL (Score:1) Monday January 08, @08:17AM EST
        • Re:Democracy by Cody Hatch (Score:2) Monday January 08, @10:47AM EST
          • Re:Democracy by LL (Score:1) Monday January 08, @05:34PM EST
      • Re:Democracy by Mr. Slippery (Score:2) Monday January 08, @08:25AM EST
          Re:Democracy (Score:4, Insightful)
          by sql*kitten on Monday January 08, @09:50AM EST (#83)
          (User #1359 Info) http://www.kitten.org.uk/
          Which is why the agreements struck are generally good for megacorps and bad for people.

          Those would be the same organizations who employ millions of people, fund the machinery of state through corporate/employment/windfall taxes, and that your pension fund is invested in?

          Things are not as black and white as the "anti capitalist" movement would have you believe. What do you suppose the world was like prior to globalization? The garden of Eden?!

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          • Re:Democracy by teatime (Score:1) Monday January 08, @09:55AM EST
            • Re:Democracy by sql*kitten (Score:3) Monday January 08, @10:51AM EST
              • Re:Democracy by teatime (Score:1) Monday January 08, @11:38AM EST
              • Re:Democracy by flimflam (Score:1) Monday January 08, @11:40AM EST
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    shoulda known better (Score:3, Informative)
    by crayz on Monday January 08, @04:21AM EST (#22)
    (User #1056 Info)
    If you really read the page, a lot of it is satirical and someone should've realized something was up. e.g.:

    "These electorates, always reluctant to adopt the rational thinking of the free trade extremists (who have, after all, proved their worth by being the world's wealthiest people, or hired by same), are the only real obstacle to the kind of progress and development that is considered most likely to benefit all."

    "Does free trade mean a high growth rate?

    There is no evidence at all that it does. There is evidence it does not..."

    "Does free trade mean a better standard of living?

    During the last thirty years, the U.S. market has been "opened" and deregulated more, and more quickly, than that of any other developed country. But the average hours worked per year in the U.S. increased greatly between 1980 and 1997, while in every other developed country but one, they declined. Compared with 1973, Americans must now work six weeks more per year to achieve the same standard of living--and not surprisingly, Americans are increasingly dissatisfied with their lives...."

    "The WTO's purpose is to broaden and enforce global free trade. Global free trade already gives multinational corporations vast powers to enforce their will against democratic governments. Expanding these corporate powers--as the WTO intends to do in Seattle and beyond--will further cripple governments and make them even less able to protect their citizens from the ravages of those entities whose only aim is to grow richer and richer and richer."


    etc.

    BTW, if you haven't already, read the story at the NYT, it's really hilarious.

    Ain't Nobody's Business if You Do: read it

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    problem not unique to internet (Score:2, Interesting)
    by mkcmkc on Monday January 08, @04:25AM EST (#24)
    (User #197982 Info) http://home.kc.rr.com/mikecoleman/
    Around 1990, as I recall, a Los Angeles TV station called the embassy of a Latin American country (I forget) to ask for an interview with the ambassador. Unluckily for them, they actually reached the phone number of a local actor, who enterprisingly showed up for the interview in a suit, mustache, and thick glasses. He did it straight, with a nice accent, and then revealed the stunt a few days later.

    Congrats to the WTO on having a sense of humor. Is there anyone that doesn't love this stuff?

    P.S. "bunny burgers"
    "Not an actor, but he plays one on TV."

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    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA (Score:3, Funny)
    by don.g (donald@gordon.co.nz.remove.everthing.after.and.inc) on Monday January 08, @04:37AM EST (#29)
    (User #6394 Info) http://my.dis.org.nz/
    That was excellent. Really. I'm surprised they managed to carry it that far, but in terms of practical jokes, sending a bogus WTO representitve to a conference UNDETECTED who raises a few eyebrows (unsurprisingly) but still gets away with it has to rank up there with the best.

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    Mixed feelings... (Score:5, Insightful)
    by Cody Hatch (cody@chaos.net.nz) on Monday January 08, @04:40AM EST (#30)
    (User #136430 Info) http://chaos.net.nz/
    I've got mixed feelings, to tell the truth. On the one hand, I deeply dislike organizations that try and bully all and sundry (remember eToys?) about domain names. And as an added bonus, the message of their victims (if any) is usually cool. Nobody LIKES to see someone making jokes about corporate stupidity get shut down by the corporation in question--you lose access to the jokes.

    In this case, it seems the WTO is being cool about this website--which they can be congratulated on. This is, after all, the way it's supposed to work. On the other hand that website is getting close to crossing the very fine line between satire (one of the highest forms of humour) and libel, which is just lying about people.

    I looked through the site, and these people aren't saying anything informed or intelligent...or even funny. There are legitament criticizism of many of the things the WTO has done...but these people don't seem to know what they are. There are funny jokes that could be made...but these people aren't making them. The WTO has done stupid things...but these people don't know what they are. There are flaws in some bits of the economic reasoning you could drive a truck through...but these people have no clue. The entire point of the site seems to be to confuse and mislead--NOT to entertain or convince.

    As it happens, I agree with much (not all) of WTO policy. But I ALSO agree with the right for people to disagree. These people may or may not have the right message--that doesn't matter. But they aren't using the right method. I have a right to tell you what I think of Bush--I don't have the right to tell you I *AM* Bush.

    How come it's always the cool sites that get slapped down?
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    208.48.26.217 www.nytimes.com (Score:5, Informative)
    by cyberdonny on Monday January 08, @04:43AM EST (#31)
    (User #46462 Info)
    > Yes, it's the New York times, so no-login URLs will doubtless soon appear.

    Actually, the URL given (http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/07/weekinreview/07 WORD.html) is already a no-login URL, if your /etc/hosts or DNS nameserver is set up "correctly". Just be sure you have the following line somewhere in your /etc/hosts:
    208.48.26.217 www.nytimes.com

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    At least they weren't throwing bricks... (Score:3, Interesting)
    by sanemind (spamme@rhodes.mine.nu) on Monday January 08, @05:07AM EST (#39)
    (User #155251 Info)
    ...molotov cocktails, or destroying the obligatory local McDonalds resteraunt franchiser's property. This was at least only intellectual violence and vandalism, somewhat of a step up compared to the average vitriolic thuggishness embraced by the modern anti-capitalists, anarchists, and the like.

    Still, the later continuation of the prank with the, ahem, joke about the 'pieing' of the man turning out to have been a method for the delivery of botulism toxin... Biological warfare; of course, they are only joking, right? Still, as real-world pies in the face have become a popular mechanism for delivery of some subversive shaming dissent [or, to be more honest, of symbolic violence. Of demonstrating to someone that you can get to them physically, and that your ilk might not always be only packing a meringue to assult them with].


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    WTO doesn't have much of a sense of humor... (Score:1)
    by randomuser on Monday January 08, @05:10AM EST (#41)
    (User #302557 Info)
    Since everyone seems to think the WTO has such a great sense of humor about this, check out their earlier statement on related matters.
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    Wow. (Score:1)
    by pb (pdbaylie@eos.ncsu.edu) on Monday January 08, @05:14AM EST (#42)
    (User #1020 Info) http://www4.ncsu.edu/~pdbaylie
    Troll stories at troll times; what will they think of next?

    Man, I'm only reading slashdot at night if I can help it now; the WTO will never restrict my pancakes, right, ninjas???
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    Practical Jokes... (Score:1)
    by F1D094 on Monday January 08, @05:50AM EST (#44)
    (User #302562 Info)
    Definitely in the running for the best practical joke of the year. It just nudges out my previous favorite, the Monolith in Seattle.....Judging from the number of /. readers, this stunt might actually cause more registered voters to mull over what it is the WTO is actually up to. Moreso than the "protestors in Nike tennis shoes." ever did.
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    Gatt people are fair (Score:2)
    by mirko (mirko@myfamilyname.org) on Monday January 08, @05:57AM EST (#45)
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    You might dislike Gatt people's economic/social positions but others groups would have prosecuted the jokers for much less.
    At least they were fair enough to take it as what it was : a joke.
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    WTO can't get the domain name back... (Score:2)
    by cperciva (cperciva@sfu.ca) on Monday January 08, @06:03AM EST (#46)
    (User #102828 Info)
    ... at least not if the ICANN UDRP is applied. One of the requirements for tranfer of a domain name is that it is being used "in bad faith". No problem there, they are deliberately misleading people. Right?

    Wrong.

    The four criteria which can construe "bad faith" are:

    (i) circumstances indicating that you have registered or you have acquired the domain name primarily for the purpose of selling, renting, or otherwise transferring the domain name registration to the complainant who is the owner of the trademark or service mark or to a competitor of that complainant, for valuable consideration in excess of your documented out-of-pocket costs directly related to the domain name; or

    (ii) you have registered the domain name in order to prevent the owner of the trademark or service mark from reflecting the mark in a corresponding domain name, provided that you have engaged in a pattern of such conduct; or

    (iii) you have registered the domain name primarily for the purpose of disrupting the business of a competitor; or

    (iv) by using the domain name, you have intentionally attempted to attract, for commercial gain, Internet users to your web site or other on-line location, by creating a likelihood of confusion with the complainant's mark as to the source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement of your web site or location or of a product or service on your web site or location.

    For the first one, they have shown no sign of wanting to sell the domain name, so that doesn't apply. For the second, AFAIK they haven't "engaged in a pattern of such conduct", so that doesn't apply.

    For the third, the WTO isn't a competitor of theirs, so that doesn't apply. And the last doesn't apply because they aren't trying to attrack users for commercial gain.

    So even though the domain was obviously registered in bad faith, none of the "bad faith" requirements are met, and the domain shouldn't be transferred according to the UDRP.

    Of course, that hasn't stopped WIPO in the past...
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    Misleading domain name? (Score:2, Interesting)
    by Garry Anderson on Monday January 08, @06:17AM EST (#48)
    (User #194949 Info) http://www.skilful.com/
    I believe that WIPO should change its name to something more descriptive and fitting. For those that missed this:

    WIPO PRESS RELEASE - September 11, 2000

    The World Intellectual Property Organisation, to improve commercial profitability, are to have a name and Internet site change. Formally WIPO, is now to be known as SWIPO. We can be found at our new site SWIPO.ORG.

    We have the full backing of United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO.GOV) and Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN.ORG).

    We are the first and most excellent of the arbitration services for ICANNs big business friendly process - the Uniform Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP). Do not think just because we are part of the United Nations (UN.ORG) that we are even-handed, therefore may rule against you. Being financed by big business - we know where our loyalties lie.

    We are to shortly start an advertising campaign to inform of this name change, aimed at the corporate and celebrity world. We will guarantee to them with absolute certainty, that they we will get any domain name they covet - whoever already owns it. Unless owners have more money and power, of course. We can do this because of rationalisation, ridding ourselves of honest panellists in readiness for our Initial Public Offering in January 2001.

    Do not use any of the other arbitration services - eResolution etc, even in the past we were the most successful in getting the name you want. We made the rules - we know all the tricks. We are the most powerful, growing daily, and can take whatever you want. Tell us the name; we will do the rest. Example: Paramount approached us a short while back, saying they would quite like CREW.com for their camera crews to use. We thought about it and came up with a winning excuse - Star Trek has the most famous crews of any ship on the planet (or off). We told them to hang on until after a smaller case for the name had gone through. It would be silly to turn down jCREW money.

    We will push aside ALL competition, using the quote from Francis Gurry, Advertising and Publicity Executive, "Domain Name Hijacking - Forget the Rest - We Swipe Best".

    We deny all of the libellous slurs being put by our critics. WIPO.org.uk say we do not look after the interests of all trademark holders. It is a malicious lie; we follow a strict set procedure to make sure we do so:

    1. We give domain to UDRP appellant, after their cheque clears.
    2. We contact each trademark in turn, no matter how obscure or tenuous the link.
    3. We offer them arbitration to take domain away from the new owner.

    Case in point: After winning them JethroTull.com, told Tull about JT.com, which we just usurped for Japan Tobacco. Tull decided it was wanted; their money is as good as anyone's. We came up a winning argument; they are 'JT' to friends, all families and fans.

    Seen a domain name you would like to hijack? Order it now from our site at SWIPO.ORG.

    "Domain Name Hijacking - Forget the Rest - We Swipe Best"

    Semblance of any the above to reality is purely a joke, as is the true state of affairs. All TM acknowledged. This has been written in the spirit of 'free speech' (you may have heard the expression). SWIPO is pointed to WIPO. If you want more of the truth (you be the judge), visit my site wipo.org.uk. You can see the answer to trademark problems there.

    Wipo.org.uk and swipo.org have no connection with, and wishes to be totally disassociated from, the World Intellectual Property Organization. The above is considered and informed opinion.
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    Misleading domain names (Score:1)
    by TheMoog (matthew@argonaut.com.no-schpamm) on Monday January 08, @07:01AM EST (#61)
    (User #8407 Info) http://www.monkeypilot.com/
    On the subject of misleading domain names, a friend of mine used to have 'ilm.com' ... ostensibly 'ImageLine Multimedia'

    He had a barrage of CVs/happy birthdays to lucas@ilm.com before eventually ilm bought the domain back off of him.

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    negativland's new gig (Score:1)
    by jothenull (jothenull@NO.SPAM.home.com) on Monday January 08, @07:27AM EST (#70)
    (User #141276 Info) http://www.mp3.com/robotman


    check out http://www.gatt.org/fundintel.html

    C'mon... when you see the words "Intellectual Property Fund" and Negativland together, how can you take it seriously?
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    Spoofs & Legality (Score:2, Interesting)
    by deran9ed (deran9ed@hushmail.com) on Monday January 08, @07:40AM EST (#71)
    (User #300694 Info) http://www.antioffline.com/
    I think I have done the most spoofs for one site to date with everything ranging from Microsoft, FreeBSD, SourceForge, ABCNews, Redhat, Firestone, Napster, Slashdot, and a few more, I think people should exercise a bit of common sense before following the information contained on spoofed pages.

    Now anyone can surely see any of the pages are made in good or bad taste depending on judgement, and many can say "They should have known better", should anyone have been technologically challenged to take anything serious, but people have to take into consideration that not everyone is a tech savvy /.'er and will often fall for these jokes and misguided info filled pages (Lord knows agencies like the FBI play off some judges who are non technically adept in an effort to get warrant issued.) I've had people who thought these were hacks I had done, I had those complain to me about their (spoofed sites) judgement to use offensive things, so its clear that some people are dolts.

    Should someone have intent to make money, misguide (for financial gain), or other ill motive outside of just typical fun poking of a site using a spoof then there should be some form restitution they should have the pay and the content be removed.

    Coming soon, NSA Spoof

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    They are not the good guys (Score:2, Insightful)
    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 08, @09:31AM EST (#79)
    Well.. Everybody seems heartily conserted that the WTO is only a buch of good guys because they didn't open their can of lawyers against all jokers in their path.. (what apparently is mere good conduct these days or so it seems)

    Let me be the first to post it then:the WTO is not sueing these people because they could not possibly face any more bad publicity

    The WTO is simply a cartel beyond the biggest of cartels that you can think of; they unite the biggest corporations (countries) to come to terms about resources and prices. Simple as that. Nothing free market about it. (As is most of capitalism is most western countries; they all start resembling communism in an eerie way by now).

    Be afraid.
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    internic.com (Score:1)
    by hymie3 on Monday January 08, @09:35AM EST (#80)
    (User #187934 Info)
    One of my friends, matt, was the guy who originally registered internic.com. (not the aussie guy; matt sold the domain to the aussie guy) Matt had up a fake internic web page. It was very obviously a fake page; lots of questions like "what is your quest?" and "spoon?"

    People would send him mail all of the time saying stuff like "I have to get my domain registered or I will lose my job!!!"

    The best part of it all was that internic.net employees started referring trouble cases to matt at internic.com (obviously knowing that was not the correct site).

    If you can scrounge up some old usenet archives, alt.pud had a lot of misplaced mail forwarded there.

    hymie
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    DJ Spooky, robots, and the Frontier Fund (Score:2, Informative)
    by Jammer@CMH (Jamie@NetEnabled SpamSpamSpammitySpam .com) on Monday January 08, @11:08AM EST (#96)
    (User #117977 Info) http://www.netenabled.com/
    Check out their page for The Frontier Fund, managed by DJ Spooky, the Subliminal Kid.

    From the description of one of the holdings (VRWR):

    "Develop a 'virtual worker' system that allows populations normally engaged in migrant labor to work over the web instead. For example, develop a telepresent robot that picks oranges or strawberries while being controlled through the internet. Then, unionize both the robots and the telepresent workers."
    Not hijacking. Clever prank.
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    Differences in misleadings (Score:1)
    by TWX_the_Linux_Zealot (oliver.clozoff@usa.net) on Monday January 08, @11:14AM EST (#101)
    (User #227666 Info)
    It's one thing if someone puts up a banner ad on a site that is a misspelling of a company's site, it's quite another to build a page that has "World Trade Organization" at the top of the page and "World Trade Organization / GATT" in the header for the title. This could be interpreted as a group claiming false identity. If I were to somehow get a domain name that was the name of a company or organization and I put information on a site claiming to be that organization, I'd probably be convicted of fraud . I think that they can use the domain name IF the are willing to upfront claim who they are versus intentionally trying to convince people that this is the official site of the WTO. I don't know about anyone else, but if someone wants me to take their side in a cause they'd better be damn honest about everything upfront, else they will lose my support, and I will also try to convince others that they are a con. This is a perfect example.


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    The real fun is here (Score:2)
    by crisco (chris@cothrun.com) on Monday January 08, @11:35AM EST (#102)
    (User #4669 Info) http://cothrun.com/
    http://www.theyesmen.org/wto/ Where they successfully sent an individual as someone impersonating a speaker from the WTO, staged a pie in the face incident and when his horrible speech didn't raise enough of a reaction from the audience they staged his death.

    Chris Cothrun
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    Anyone noticed the Y2K+1 bug on NYTIMES page? (Score:1)
    by dalibor on Monday January 08, @01:54PM EST (#109)
    (User #241079 Info)
    Check the right side of the article:
    Headlines updated 1/8/101 7:48 P.M.
    :-)
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    clever (Score:2)
    by grappler (thegrappler@DIE_SPAMMERS.usa.net) on Monday January 08, @02:53PM EST (#111)
    (User #14976 Info) http://www.mines.edu/Stu_life/organ/ufo/
    No matter what your politics are, ya gotta admit that's a pretty cool Hack. They carried it pretty far. I wonder what the guy was thinking when he gave the speech? That must have been fun :-)


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    Why are these people againts free trade? (Score:1)
    by rent on Monday January 08, @09:15PM EST (#127)
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    Free trade increases wealth. Here is a simplified example of how it works:

    Alice has produced 100 cups, which to her are worth only $1 each.
    Total wealth of Alice = $100

    Meanwhile, Bob has produced 100 plates, which to him are worth only $1 each.
    Total wealth of Bob = $100

    Alice has lots of cups, but no plates. She will pay $4 for a plate from Bob, because plates are not available where she lives.
    Bob has lots of plates, but no cups. He will pay $4 for a cup from Alice, because cups not available where he lives.

    Alice and Bob meet, and agree to trade. Alice gives 10 of her cups to Bob, and Bob gives 10 of his plates to Alice.

    Alice now has 90 cups at $1 each and 10 plates at $4 each. Total wealth of Alice has increased to $130 (because $90 worth of cups + $40 worth of plates = $130)

    Bob now has 90 plates at $1 each and 10 cups at $4 each. Total wealth of Bob has increased to $130 (because $90 worth of plates + $40 worth of cups = $130)

    Both Alice and Bob had their wealth increased.
    That's why Free Trade is so important.
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